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I will ignore the silly name calling. For once you actually addressed the substance of an assertion.

You right about the usual cause of rigor mortis. In certain cases, however, it can be mimicked by coagulation:

“Certain conditions simulate rigor mortis. The conditions simulating rigor mortis are; heat stiffening, cold stiffening, gas stiffening, and cadaveric spasm. Heat stiffening is a condition seen in individuals exposed to high temperature, high voltage electrocution, or scalding due to hot liquids and is characterized by rigidity of the body due to coagulation and denaturation of the tissue proteins.”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK539741/

Re DVT, you got proof a thrombus can span the entire length of a leg? I have never heard of such a thing. I’d love to learn about that. Got a link?

About DVT:

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/16911-deep-vein-thrombosis-dvt

The reason an embolus that breaks free of a thrombus in a vein in a leg usually causes pulmonary ischemia (or coronary ischemia) is that blood flows first to the heart, then lungs for oxygenation. It would have to make it through the lungs go back through the heart again to be pumped up to the brain. It usually gets stuck in a lung.

Now atherosclerosis is a different animal. Plaque can form in the arteries of your legs and, yes the entire length of the artery. But that’s not a blood clot. It’s plaque buildup. If the plaque injures the lining of the artery, a blood clot can form there. But extend the entire length of the leg? Again, I have never heard of such a thing.

Anyway, the plaque can restrict blood flow and cause PAD, which isn’t fun. But you can’t pull the plaque stuck to the arterial walls out of a body any more than you can pull a thrombus out because they, too, adhere to the vessel walls.

Again, a thrombus adheres to the vessel wall, and its surface is rough. Postmortem clots are smooth and do not adhere to the vessel walls. That’s why he was able to pull that long, long shiny smooth clot out of the leg through an incision in the groin area: it was a postmortem clot. Even if such a long, long clot could form in life, it would be stuck to the vessel wall and he would not be able to do that. Ergo this embalmer pulling out these clots is no proof the vaccine causes such clots. They are clots that formed after death.

Re Covid and DVT. Yes, having Covid increases your risk of DVT, even long, long after you are over it.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00314-0/fulltext

>>>Re your “Given that mouse model studies early on, showed the clot shots able to cross the blood-brain barrier, talk of multiple blood clots including in the brain, leading to a loss of some cognitive function”<<<

Do you mean the lipid-encapsulated mRNA in the vaccines? Or the snippets of spike protein produced by the cells that receive the mRNA “instruction sheet”? If, yes, *if* the vaccine causes blood clot formation, why would it matter whether any of its contents could cross the BBB. An ischemic stoke is usually caused by atherosclerosis or by an embolus that has broken off from a thrombus in an artery elsewhere in the body (often the carotid artery) and travelled to the brain in which case it is also called an embollic stroke. Although rare, a stroke (in this case called a hemorrhagic stroke or cerebral hemorrhage) can be caused by cerebral venous sinus thrombosis.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/cerebral-venous-sinus-thrombosis

https://www.healthline.com/health/stroke/embolic-stroke-symptoms

Elevated D-Dimer would be expected in a case of VITT after receiving a J&J or AstraZeneca vaccine, but VITT is rare. So he says he found it in 62%? Got a link?

https://www.tctmd.com/news/blood-clots-after-covid-19-vaccination-linked-immune-response-uk-report

Now, the vaccines might carry an elevated risk of blood clots. But this embalmer and his buddies have proved no such thing.

Plaque/ Calcium doesn’t move. It blocks the artery but stays at the build up location.
Embolisms……there are 2 kind, fat, or blood.
A fatty embolism usually occurs in a trauma, like a midline compound fracture of a femur. A fatty embolism can travel just like a blood embolism.

You pretty much covered it all.

Had a kid with a femur fracture……..just before I was going to give him 4mg morphine IVP he stopped breathing.
Had to manage his airway to the ER where the trauma surgery team was waiting.
Thank goodness I didn’t push the morphine or I would have dosed him with Narcan thinking it was the morphine, but would have quickly figured it out.

You right about the usual cause of rigor mortis. In certain cases, however, it can be mimicked by coagulation:

Yeah. But that's not what David the Unchaste said. Troll.

Re DVT, you got proof a thrombus can span the entire length of a leg? I have never heard of such a thing. I’d love to learn about that. Got a link?

Yes I do.

But you ought to be able to find one yourself trivially.

I'll send a private copy of the link to a few other people whom you call mindless Q-bot conspiracy theorists, to keep you honest. Troll.

>i>Again, a thrombus adheres to the vessel wall, and its surface is rough. Postmortem clots are smooth and do not adhere to the vessel walls. That’s why he was able to pull that long, long shiny smooth clot out of the leg through an incision in the groin area: it was a postmortem clot. Even if such a long, long clot could form in life, it would be stuck to the vessel wall and he would not be able to do that. Ergo this embalmer pulling out these clots is no proof the vaccine causes such clots. They are clots that formed after death.

Odd thing, that. You didn't mention that while wanking off over "chicken fat clots" which were merely unsourced, unverified photographs. But you still acted like the mere appearance in the photographs was dispositive. Troll.

Elevated D-Dimer would be expected in a case of VITT after receiving a J&J or AstraZeneca vaccine, but VITT is rare. So he says he found it in 62%? Got a link?

This was posted widely on the clot-shot threads (or, maybe, Q threads, I don't remember). https://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=364941 One of you Pfauci_Pfanclub types airily said that "oh well, elevated d-Dimer can result from lots of things, like cancer." ...except cancer also leads to widespread clotting, now and then, so six of one, half-a-dozen of the other.

There is a whole process to rigor.
I dumbed it down because if I speak overly techie I’m called a liar.

It’s cause is muscular but begins with enzymes being released…..lack of O2 and no movement of whole blood.

We were speaking about blood clots.
Anybody can look something up.
I wish they would do it when they read about Cobra Venom being in the vaccines.
Guess if I said there was Snake venom, Johnny on the spots would find out there isn’t.
Perhaps that’s how I should play it going forward. Repeat insane claims and have them prove me wrong.

Most of FreeRepublic think the Q anti-Vaxxers are loons as I see the same people infesting and posting these threads.

Yes I’m on large doses of steroids for my back and they’re making me an angry white man.
That’s all.

>>>Re your “Given that mouse model studies early on, showed the clot shots able to cross the blood-brain barrier, talk of multiple blood clots including in the brain, leading to a loss of some cognitive function”<<<

Do you mean the lipid-encapsulated mRNA in the vaccines? Or the snippets of spike protein produced by the cells that receive the mRNA “instruction sheet”? If, yes, *if* the vaccine causes blood clot formation, why would it matter whether any of its contents could cross the BBB. An ischemic stoke is usually caused by atherosclerosis or by an embolus that has broken off from a thrombus in an artery elsewhere in the body (often the carotid artery) and travelled to the brain in which case it is also called an embollic stroke. Although rare, a stroke (in this case called a hemorrhagic stroke or cerebral hemorrhage) can be caused by cerebral venous sinus thrombosis.

Either one; early mouse model studies on the lipid nanoparticles showed them crossing the blood-brain barrier; so any cells which uptake the mRNA (including endothelial cells lining the blood vessels) would present spike protein by design. And of course, studies on the jabbed showed free spike protein in the blood after injections, and the CDC quietly erased its claim the spike protein doesn't last long in the body.

Oooh, almost forgot: TROLL