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To: gas_dr
I am not the one who has made definitive statements that are unprovable.

That isn't the only way one can be wrong on the internet.

Acting like a weasel is also a no-no, for example.

Those accused of being $hot $hill$, and their allies, tend to

1) lump together all opposition to the jabs, with the wild-eyed BS about 5G mind control, implying that to accept any claims against the jabs, one must perforce wholeheartedly accept all the wildest claims

2) Attack the personal characteristics and beliefs of those attacking the shots

3) Attack the professional reputation of those attacking the shots

4) In doing 2) and 3), rely on left-wing control phrases such as "discredited" and "deBOOOOOOOONKed"™ such as used by Goolag, FaecesBook, and others (don't forget that the Attorneys General of several US states have sued, and more than 45 government officials were involved, as per information listed in Post #271 on an FR thread.

5) In addition, they state that those who fall for these conspiracy theories are prone to have fallen for other things such as "Q theory". (Which is not even an actual thing.)

6) The language and approach used is highly reminiscent of that suggested by Dr. Peter Hotez in an editorial he wrote in Nature in which he said

"Investigations by the US State Department and the UK Foreign Office have described how Russian intelligence organizations seek to discredit Western COVID-19 vaccines. One campaign implies that it could turn people into monkeys. This builds on a longer, well-documented history of Russia-sponsored disinformation, presumably to destabilize the United States and other democratic countries."

and

"The United States hosts the world’s largest and best-organized anti-vaccine groups. According to the London-based Center for Countering Digital Hate, these are influential groups, not a spontaneous grass-roots movement. Many far-right extremist groups that spread false information about last year’s US presidential election are doing the same about vaccines."

The aforementioned "Center for Countering Digital Hate" on its website refers to "The Disinformation Dozen" which seems to have a strange overlap with the "discredited dozen" or "dirty dozen" or "disinformation dozen" by those who look to be performing a rearguard action on the jabs here on FR.

The Center for Countering Digital Hate also champions LGBTQ+, calls crisis pregnancy centers "Fake Clinics", and has sections on Misogyny, Climate Change, and anti-Semitism.

All the usual Deep State / Leftist tropes.

These do not comport with the claims to be merely disinterested doctors or scientists concerned only with rigorously following the scientific method, for some reason.

What this thread really needs is a lawyer to start asking "no-room-to-wiggle-out" questions.

Failing that, those referred to as $hot $hill$ could be a bit more vociferous in their condemnation of the FDA, CDC, and elsewhere in government, as well as Pfauci, Pfizer, and Moderna for the (at best) piss-poor safety trials and trying to hide the results. Or why the Swine Flu shot was discontinued after 25 or 50 fatalities reported to VAERS, but the very name VAERS is substituted with "unreliable rumor mill" solely for the purposes of considering the clot-shots; why it is that the reputation of either the CDC or the clot-shots, should be completely unaffected by the CDC suddenly revising their guidance that the spike protein is rapidly eliminated from the body; why the FDA put out advertisements against Ivermectin saying "Stop it. You are not a horse" when Ivermectin has been used for decades, is reportedly on the WHO list of top 100 essential medicines, and the discoverer of Ivermectin was awarded the 2015 Nobel Prize in Medicine.

Etc. ad nauseum ad infinitum.

Your affected motivations (Mirram Webster synonyms "act, assume, bluff, counterfeit, dissemble, fake, feign, pass (for), pretend, profess, put on, sham, simulate" which includes 'pass for' or profess) -- and, as in an earlier post, Your is meant as plural -- seem to be the purity of REAL science, unaffected by shysters, rumor, or grifting -- and yet it is abundantly clear that the behavior of Pfizer and Moderna was, and continues to be, purely mercenary -- why then are you not loudly calling out the failings in their "science" as grifting?

195 posted on 09/04/2022 12:15:34 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Wow! Applaud your post. Very surprised to see no other response!


211 posted on 09/04/2022 9:21:45 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: grey_whiskers; ransomnote; Jane Long; aMorePerfectUnion; SecAmndmt; Jan_Sobieski; bagster; ...

Thank you.

Ping to post 195


214 posted on 09/04/2022 9:36:48 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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