Posted on 09/03/2022 4:43:51 PM PDT by ransomnote
You have to pick a side or else.
If one is vaccinated or not and is against the Governments actions during this Covid cluster fornication, the Left does lump you in to a group that hates you too.
The group you’re lumped into hates you because you ain’t buying their vaccine fear Porn.
Why can’t the anti-Vaxxers just be against the vaccines. Why does madness need to take place to assure themselves or others they are solidly against the vaccines?
With is the group you’re actually in. People that may or may not have been vaccinated and don’t care what other people decide to do.
They feel this way without all the drama and foolishness attached to it.
I’m not against the vaccines. I am against mandates.
Most conservatives stick to their principles of protecting rights and freedoms both negative freedoms (”freedom from”) and positive freedoms (”freedom to”). With rights and freedoms come responsibilities. We believe people should be free from unreasonable government coercion (but accept that our government may and should enforce reasonable laws that conform to the Constitution provided due process is rigorously carried out — eg the imprisonment of a murderer following a fair trial).
We believe people should be free, within reasonable and lawful bounds, to make their own choices and arrive at their own decisions, especially when it comes to their own health. We believe each of is responsible for looking out for our own health and well-being. We recognise that with freedom comes resposibility.
We make our decisions about whether or not to get vaccinated based on what information we deem reliable, or reliable enough, at the time, taking into account our age, pre-existing heath conditions and life circumstances. It’s a personal and private decision. We believe government officials have no business poking their noses into such personal and private decisions, and neither do we. We trust our fellow conservatives have made the best choice for themselves they knew how to make at the the time and their private reasons are private.
We believe different people can make different decisions, based on their own particular health and circumstances, and either decision can be perfectly reasonable for that person, regardless of what decision we ourselves made. Whether vaccinated or not, many of us share some of the same reasonable concerns about the safety and efficacy of the vaccines.
In 2021, Samuel Eckert's German Team and the Isolate Truth Fund offered a reward of US$265,000 for any scientist who can incontrovertible had been isolated and therefore exists. They, too, pointed out that not even one laboratory in the world has yet been able to isolate the virus. To the present the reward now grown to US1.2 million for any scientist who can prove the SARS- CoV-2 exist.
Read more here.
https://www.brightworkresearch.com/why-is-there-such-a-problem-isolating-the-covid-virus/
I know those fired healthcare employees who sued their former employers, their lawyers asked the proof if so-called SARS-CoV-2 been isolated and where was the documentation, the defandants couldn't provide the isolation data and documentation in the discovery, so the former employees who were fired won by default.
We go to a mega church that started back in-person church service from April 2020. The church was sued by the City and State for violating the social distancing enforced by the City and State. Team of Christian lawyers from Moore Law Group asked the City and State for the proof if virus exist with the SARS-CoV-2 isolation documentation, the defandants dropped the lawsuite, settled with the church for $1,000,000 for the attorney fees.
What's up with that? Oh well, go ahead, take all those flu shots, HPV shots, hepatitis B shots, HIV shots, all Covid-shots, make yourself happy. You may also volunteer yourself for whatever clinical trials, and good luck.
I work for a large life insurance company, I can confirm that.
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YOUTUBE Others are confirming that excess deaths are increasing.
What does that mean to the public since it has NOT been proven that the LARGE increase in excess deaths are caused by the jab?
Anyone who gets any more of these vaxxxxine injections is an idiot and each should be nominated for a Darwin award.
lol
wannabegeek wrote: “You didn’t watch that “Rose in the Rivers of Rats,” right? Dr. Andrew Kaufmann explained...”
No, I prefer to get my information from respectable peer reviewed medical journals instead of videos by medical kooks such as ‘Dr’ Kaufmann who believes that appendicitis can be relieved by enema.”
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-pseudoscience/psychiatrist-who-calmly-denies-reality
If you had taken the time to investigate, you would have found multiple reports of the isolation of the virus and Koch’s and River’s postulates.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7095368/
Are you aware that Cowan was forced to surrender his medical license?
“A San Francisco doctor infamous for spreading misinformation linking COVID-19 to 5G communications networks can no longer practice medicine after surrendering his license to California’s medical board. “
“Until last July, Thomas Cowan ran an alternative medicine practice that didn’t accept insurance, sold nutritional supplements and offered $375 consultations. Cowan has published several fringe medicine books — including one questioning whether viruses cause disease — that rank highly on searches for vaccine books on Amazon and bookseller Barnes and Noble. “
https://calmatters.org/health/2021/02/conspiracy-theory-doctor-surrenders-medical-license/
It’s interesting that you would bring up Dr. Stefan Lanka Ph.D. “...who offered €100,000 (£71,350; $106,300) to anyone who could prove that measles is a virus has been ordered by a court to pay up.”
“Stefan Lanka, who believes the illness is psychosomatic, made the pledge four years ago on his website.”
“The reward was later claimed by German doctor David Barden, who gathered evidence from various medical studies. Mr Lanka dismissed the findings.”
And a German court ruled agains Lanka ordering him to pay up.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31864218
The claims that CDC hasn’t isolated the virus essentially come down to those making that claim want CDC to use their method of isolation even when the CDC methodology actually works.
But, please continue to live in your dream world where viruses don’t exist, where enemas cure appendicitis, and continue to believe in disproved fantasies.
wannabegeek wrote: “Team of Christian lawyers from Moore Law Group asked the City and State for the proof if virus exist with the SARS-CoV-2 isolation documentation, the defandants dropped the lawsuite, settled with the church for $1,000,000 for the attorney fees.”
btw, Moore Law Group isn’t a law firm, it’s a collection agency. You’ll note their web address is collectmoore.com.
From their website: “Committed to Superior Compliance in Legal Collections The Moore Law Group is committed to practice debt collection law in accordance with the maxim that although compassion and understanding cannot be legislated, they are vital components of the practice of law. The Moore Law Group practices legal collections law in such a manner that those with whom they interact are treated with dignity, respect, compassion and professionalism.”
Many governments lost similar suits, but not because of this ‘the virus doesn’t exist’ claim. They lost because of ‘Separation of Church and State’. You would be laughed out of court claiming that viruses do not exist.
David Chase wrote: “Why can’t the anti-Vaxxers just be against the vaccines. Why does madness need to take place to assure themselves or others they are solidly against the vaccines?”
Good question. It is one thing to be against mandates. It is another thing altogether to claim viruses don’t exist, that the vaccines are more dangerous than the virus, that Bill Gates wants to decimate the worlds population, etc.
The case of my church it was City and State the plaintiffs. Church represented by Christian lawyers from Moore Law Group, not official by the collection agency but as individuals.
Fired healthcare employees around U.S. filed class action lawsuits against their former employers, all of them won by default. Default? Because they don't have documentation the virus could sicken people. Fired employees winning class action lawsuits for unjustifiable termination of employment, that's not seperation of church and state.
And until now no scientist ever came forward for the $1.2 millions reward to provide that SARS-CoV-2 exist. Maybe you can try. That's like winning the California super lotto.
Post some links to substantiate.
- lawsuits won because lack of documentation that the virus can sicken people.
- the $1.2 millions reward to provide that SARS-CoV-2 exist
Credible links please.
Quite frankly those sound like urban legends.
The proof if COVID-19 virus exist relates to the isolation of the virus according to a set of principles known as Koch’s postulates, based on German physician Robert Koch’s Nobel Prize-winning work on tuberculosis in 1905. The four basic Koch postulates are as follows:
1) The microorganism must be found in diseased but not healthy individuals.
2) The microorganism must be cultured from the diseased individual.
3) Inoculation of a healthy individual with the cultured microorganism must recapitulate the disease.
4) The microorganism must be re-isolated from the inoculated, diseased individual and matched to the original microorganism.
Cridible link? Click Here! Oh yeah! You can hire your famous virologist to try to find the virus?
wannabegeek wrote: “1,500,000 or $1,486,536 reward for anyone who can prove Covid-19 virus or SARS-CoV-2 exist, nobody went to claim where’s proof the freakin’ virus exist?”
Under German law, there is no obligation for these kooks to pay off. Consequently, no one is going to accept this challenge.
https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/masern-wette-impfgegner-muss-nicht-zahlen-a-1077601.html
Google will translate this for you.
wannabegeek wrote: “The proof if COVID-19 virus exist relates to the isolation of the virus according to a set of principles known as Koch’s postulates, based on German physician Robert Koch’s Nobel Prize-winning work on tuberculosis in 1905.”
I’ve already provided material refuting this claim. See post #226.
“Stefan Lanka, who believes the illness is psychosomatic, made the pledge four years ago on his website.”
Early on before vaxx rolled out there's 'NIH Remdisivir treatment protocol' pshychosomatic people that though had Covid-19 went to the hospital, preemptively given intravenous Remdisivir injection daily, 5 days later vital organs started failing, 7-10 days they're dead, that's how the infilated the Covid-19 by actually killing people by fake treatment against fake pandemic.
A then young microbiologist Stefan Lanka with already his PhD discovered HIV don't cause AIDS but kept silent, put out €100,000 challenge for anyone who can prove measle virus if exist.
“The reward was later claimed by German Dr. David Barden, who gathered evidence from various medical studies. Mr Lanka dismissed the findings.” And a German court ruled agains Lanka ordering him to pay up? Oh yeah?
Oppps, Dr. Lanka said he never paid Dr. Barden because he actually won in the German Federal Supreme Court!
The Proof in Bardens vs. Lanka – Measles in Court, oh the challenger Dr. Bardens thought he won €100,000, oh yeah! Not too fast!
Disappointing outcome of Bardens vs. Lanka: measles proven to exist, but anti-vaxxer Lanka keeps his money! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
So, You think Dr. Stefan Lanka lost, huh? You didn't follow up what happened next in the higher German Federal Court!
So, measle virus don't exist, HIV don't cause AIDS, 99% yearly flu deaths had flu shot, hepatitis B so-called vaccine's adverse side effects are myocardis, pericarditis, blood clot, autoimmune diesase similar adverse effect of the Covid-19 shots I thought same ingredients as the hepatitis B shot, Trump thought he had good accomplishment pushing his operation warp speed.
Mark Steyn: Young, fit & dying? When will there be operation backtrack? Watch the video!
wannabegeek wrote: “Your post #226? You must be a paid Covid-19 apologist?”
So anyone who posts the truths that refute the anti-vaxxer narrative is paid? Then who’s paying you for the anti-vaxxer propaganda you’re spouting? Mercola? Malone?
wannabegeek wrote: “Oppps, Dr. Lanka said he never paid Dr. Barden because he actually won in the German Federal Supreme Court!”
As I mentioned in my previous post, the federal court upheld Lanka because Lanka’s challenge required the proof to be in a single paper, not a combination of multiple papers. IOW, the proof was provided just not in the format Lanka demanded. Even your own link proves viruses exist yet you continue to deny reality.
wannabegeek wrote: “Disappointing outcome of Bardens vs. Lanka: measles proven to exist, but anti-vaxxer Lanka keeps his money!”
This is so typical of anti-vaxxer propaganda.
wannabegeek wrote: “Early on before vaxx rolled out there’s ‘NIH Remdisivir treatment protocol’ pshychosomatic people that though had Covid-19 went to the hospital, preemptively given intravenous Remdisivir injection daily, 5 days later vital organs started failing, 7-10 days they’re dead, that’s how the infilated the Covid-19 by actually killing people by fake treatment against fake pandemic.”
Do you have any proof of such an outlandish claim?
What’s the thing about people knowing and repeating a lie, but if you don’t repeat the lie you are not part of the club?
You would need to read the whole linked article understand it, extrapolate it.
DugwayDuke said, "So anyone who posts the truths that refute the anti-vaxxer narrative is paid? Then who’s paying you for the anti-vaxxer propaganda you’re spouting? Mercola? Malone?"
It depends what you believe which is truth and not. You believe in germ theory, I don't. It's not only Stefan Lanka telling the world that no pathogenic virus exist and that viruses cause dieases but some others in America who're afraid to speak out. There're already 102 holistic doctors who were telling people don't take flu shot, don't take Covid-19 shot, don't take HIV shot, etc., because there's no benefit, all unnecessary.
Oh Remdisivir, do I have proof? Even if it occured in UK, U.S. and Brazil, CDC don't admit that, but they've given intravenous Remdisivir injections to people who opted to be supposedly treated, the Remdisivir effect was like slow effect bite of king cobra. I saw video of British undertaker who was forced to be confined in the hospital by British police against his will, they told him he'd be given Remdisivir which he refused, stayed in the hospital 72 hours without sleep just to make sure they'd inject him the poisonous Remdisivir. He's undertaker who saw spike of deaths by supposedly Covid-19 NIH Remdisivir treatment protocol.
I think you need to get all those Covid-19 jabs and booster yourself that may make you happier.
wannabegeek wrote: “It depends what you believe which is truth and not. You believe in germ theory, I don’t.”
wannabegeek wrote: “I think you need to get all those Covid-19 jabs and booster yourself that may make you happier.”
I think you need to leave the 18th century behind. If you don’t believe in germ theory, then you don’t believe doctors should wash their hands between patients and sterilize surgical instrument. If you don’t believe in germ theory, then you don’t believe in clean water and modern sanitation to prevent disease either.
GET A LIFE, OKAY?
wannabegeek wrote: “It depends what you believe which is truth and not. You believe in germ theory, I don’t.”
If you don’t believe in germ theory, what do you believe causes diseases?
As for me the theory that invisible microorganisms such as viruses, bacteria, and germs cause disease is an ancient myth.
It stands to this day because there is great profit to be made.
Pathogens don't cause disease, they are the consequence of disease.
For example, viruses don't cause disease but manifest themselves after we are diseased.
Viruses and other microorganisms form an intricate symbiotic relationship inside the human body called the human virome. It is estimated that the human virome is comprised of roughly 380 trillion viruses within the roughly 100 trillion cells that make up a person's body.
However, most viruses are harmless and don't incite the immune system. In brief, you don't catch disease—you create it, period!
Virology is pseudoscience.
That is what I believe contrary to what you believe. I will not waste my time again replying to you, good luck, get a life!
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