[little jeremiah]

Patriot Roundtable with Ivan Raiklin & Patel Patriot - Devolution & the Pence Card on Red Pill News (rumble.com)

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I’m listening; about halfway through. I think that Ivan Raiklin’s theory is not accurate; it all depends on Trump being manipulated, controlled, and rather clueless.

[Keflavik76]

I’m listening; about halfway through. I think that Ivan Raiklin’s theory is not accurate; 

I think Ivan makes some really good points about Pence. I agree that J6 took them by surprise and changed the dynamics of objections in the Congress. Pelosi used J6 to complete the steal of the election.  Several people were ready to object to the electorate that were sent to Congress because the states didn't follow the law.  Pence had a hand in shutting that down. I'm only one hour into the video. Very interresting roundtable.

[meadsjn]

Patriot Roundtable with Ivan Raiklin & Patel Patriot - Devolution & the Pence Card on Red Pill News (rumble.com)
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I’m listening; about halfway through. I think that Ivan Raiklin’s theory is not accurate; it all depends on Trump being manipulated, controlled, and rather clueless
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On the later Devolution Power Hour, many of the viewers commented the same on the earlier “debate” with Jon and Ivan.

Ivan talked a lot, but didn’t seem to want to listen. He appeared to have skimmed some Devolution material, but did not grasp the amount of research involved, and missed the logic completely.

It gave Jon an opportunity to demonstrate his reasoning, and he did quite well.