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To: bagster

Not the least bit angry. Just setting the record straigh. So……. Where tin begin:

1. Please show me a single instance where I have shifted to the vaccine. Ring trunks fault. This is your first argument technique. Ascribe to tour opponent a position that is not his. I’m face many posts have I question and in fact spelled out that the repeated conspiracy theories do the dirty dozen (tenpenny, American front line doctors who think having sex with demons causes gyn problems, Simone gold and the rest of the quacks) repeated ad nausea by the squad here gives traction to the antitrumpers. Trump did a great thing and the vaccines are his legacy. Operation warp speed was a picture perfect execution of how to solve a problem. And how government can be efficient. It was also a great story on terms of how American ingenuity is great and can do anything. It’s the naysayers here who are the on the side of the sissy socialists of Europe.

2. As long as people are get shot of crippled and dying. The actual evidence does not support this statement. To hear the conga line of conspiracists retell it bodies are piling up in the street. They are not. Over 300M doses given in America alone. Where is all the carnage? On dark micrograms? When is it going to manifest? Oh that’s right. Six months from now. Just wait and see. We are working on the third year of hair wait and see. And the complications? Laughable. Tachycardia? Please. Myocarditis. When it occurs < 1% of the time it is brief and self monitored with no long term effects. Just like every other vaccine or actually viral illness. But the conga line here keeps saying how dangerous this is. It is laughable. But just like everything else a minor and self limited rare complication becomes that every cardiac event is because of the vaccination. It’s actually funny to see ye who has zero understanding of disease and medicine draw conclusions that simply cannot be.

3. All of America except a subset of handwringers and perpetual maskers on the left and conspiracy nuts on our side have decided it’s over. As i said in multiple posts — it’s over when the American people say it’s over. The American people have shrugged and mixed on. It’s over. It’s this Q continuum who insists on screaming and brining it up who is prolonging it as best as possible. Happily most normal Americans look at this drivel and roll their eyes. You do realize that the whole Q thing is the world largest example of group think at its finest. In terms of opinion all you folks are doing is marginalizing yourself. It’s ok. You just need to know from those of us who actually live in the real world. And please explain why the donations to our beloved site are down. Because the dishonesty of these types of posts combined with you and your colleagues efforts to insult, demean, and advance conspiracy theories has simply caused many to vote with their wallet. We are 2/3 is the way through this quarter and barely over half the funds raised. I know many like myself who have simply stopped their generous support due to exactly these threads with the usual nastiness of about 10 posters including goin. It was cute at first. Now it’s just obnoxious.

I could go on but I actually have better things to do What I find funny is that in the bizarro world you want to live in when the lists are generated of those for us who push back against you in the Q threads our lack of response is considered victory for you. No, our lack of response is because at some point when people such as yourself and colleagues tell us you are uneducabkwnand argue in bad faith there is no point on arguing. The whole loot of debate is good faith attempts to find the truth. There is no good faith attempts anymore from you or your apparent leader.

I like a few gold men the movie as well. So I will sum it up with a different quote.

These are the facts. And they are not in dispute.


198 posted on 08/27/2022 4:58:11 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

I’d like to chirp in about donations. I would ask you, me, all of us to consider donating regardless of the increase of posting that is at the bleeding edge. I would agree that the:

spoons stick to injection sites /
President Trump may be trying to send us a message by holding a glass of water with both hands /
President Trump is still in power and the military will re-install him in office /
etc

have probably led to FReepers looking elsewhere to comment

but FR is needed more than ever. To offer different viewpoints, to correct what may be inaccurate information, and to have fun (hopefully). You are an important part of the FR mission. I’d ask you to again consider donating.


199 posted on 08/27/2022 5:47:02 AM PDT by Fury
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To: gas_dr
Not the least bit angry.


207 posted on 08/27/2022 8:39:43 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: gas_dr

Life insurance companies disagree with your assertions. Maybe you can point to a factor other than the “vaccines” that have caused a huge spike in deaths outside of actuarial norms? In all age groups I might add.


281 posted on 08/28/2022 10:03:28 AM PDT by Metrobank
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