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To: grey_whiskers

It’s clear from the context why mRNA in general was classed in the “gene therapy” category by the government bureaucracy even though the snippet of mRNA in the vaccines does not act as a gene therapy and permanently alter DNA. The following sentence, which you choose to ignore, clearly states so. Cherry picking.

I will ignore your silly accusations and name calling as not worth my time or attention. As for your claim about my “lying through my foul teeth” regarding articles you posted, here are your posts of those articles:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4074238/posts?page=1045#1045

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4074238/posts?page=1032#1032

Now who is lying? You must think highly of these people and what they have to say. Why else would you share links promoting them?

As for the Q tie-in, that’s legitimate. After Q stopped dropping and you’d worn out the “Ashli Babbitt was a crisis actor and isn’t really dead and it was all fake blood” type stuff, you switched to Covid, then when the vaccines rolled out you became obsessed with vaxx doomers. Nearly every article posted here from some clickbait vaxx doomer site run by grifters was posted by active posters on the Special Q Thread (your little snowflake sanctuary where none may challenge your nutty conspiracy theories about such things Biden’s earlobes, the Pence family’s dead bunny, and Trump retaining possession of the nuclear football to this very day.). These articles claimed the vaccines contained all sorts of preposterous things, including teeny weeny razor blades, tiny mechanical octopuses, wiggly wormy parasites, and King Cobra snake venom.

People who get sucked into one conspiracy theory tend to get sucked into more. Like those who believe the moon landing was a hoax are more likely to believe in the chemtrail thing and that the Sandy Hook shooting was fake and all were “crisis actors”. Hence the plethora of conspiracy theories embraced by Q followers. And you are a die-hard Q follower yourself.

Moving a!ong, yes, although in development for decades, mRNA vaccines are a really new thing. Hence, uncertain regulatory pathways and all the rest.

Next you start mixing in legitimate concerns about the vaccines with unproven theories.

Yes, it normally takes a decade for a vaccine to be approved for general use after extensive clinical trials. Yes, long-term effects are a genuine legitimate concern. Yet another reason I am against mandates.

It’s true that that the vaccines are not effective against newer strains of Covid. Last year’s flu vaccine is usually not effective against this year’s strain, either. And it happens too often that they guess wrong and this year’s flu shot isn’t much good, either. Viruses mutate. Some rapidly. Corona viruses tend to mutate rather quickly. Frankly, this was to be expected (at least I expected it), as Birx finally acknowledged.

Do you have any legitimate source to cite proving the spike protein “is the harmful part of the virus” all on its own? Any at all?

You are assuming a number of competing pharmaceutical companies and biotech firms in various countries all produced the equivalent of the Pinto in vaccine form at the same time, all of them knowing in advance they were harmful. Seriously? That’s quite the coincidence or conspiracy or collusion.

Where is your proof the adverse events in the clinical trials “were so bad”?

The Pfizer “whistleblower” was someone in sales, IIRC (it was a long time ago that you guys were carrying on about him). I don’t recall that he “published” any “internal results” just that he made accusations. Again, it’s been a long time, so if you want to cite this guy as a credible source (and not some disgruntled employee looking for $ and his 15 minutes of fame) you really need to post a link to whatever he “published”.

Yes, it’s true that Fauci & Friends had the full force of the media behind them. That’s why I especially fault them to telling us bald faced lies. But that does not mean the vaxx doomers are lily white and can do no wrong. They get plenty wrong.

The Virology Journal “article” you touted is not peer-reviewed article, but a letter to the editor of said journal by Kenji Yamamoto, a Japanese doctor (link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9167431/ ). The Lancet study is the one he cites to support his statement that “the study showed that immune function among vaccinated individuals eight months after the administration of two doses of the COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated individuals” in his footnote 1, but this is a gross misunderstanding or misrepresentation of that study, perhaps a translation error. The Lancet study absolutely DOES NOT support your assertion that “not just immune response to COVID-1984 variants, but overall immunity is impaired by the clot shots.”

If you bother to check out The Lancet study yourself, you will find it says no such thing. It does show the vaccines’ efficacy wanes considerably over time, especially in the elderly (and recommends boosters). While the study does show immunity to the Covid virus lessens over time as vaccine efficacy wanes, there is never any claim or question that overall immune function is depressed.


173 posted on 08/18/2022 9:37:47 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd
People who get sucked into one conspiracy theory tend to get sucked into more. Like those who believe the moon landing was a hoax are more likely to believe in the chemtrail thing and that the Sandy Hook shooting was fake and all were “crisis actors”. Hence the plethora of conspiracy theories embraced by Q followers. And you are a die-hard Q follower yourself.

Sod off, Fedophile troll.

175 posted on 08/18/2022 9:50:45 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: CatHerd
I will ignore your silly accusations and name calling as not worth my time or attention. As for your claim about my “lying through my foul teeth” regarding articles you posted, here are your posts of those articles:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4074238/posts?page=1045#1045

Yes. I have a link to an interview with Martin, for reference.

My comment is that "In the interview, Martin says the 700 million figure is from the vax-pushers’ own estimates/assertions."

So the 700 million is from those trying to push the clot-shots.

Again, lying through your foul teeth to cover up the lies of your side: and then treating my calling them out on it, as something bad.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4074238/posts?page=1032#1032

You're lying again.

As usual.

I did not quote her as an authoritative source here.

The article points out her plane crashed.

Which is not "promoting her" but going, "What a ...coincidence."

But again, you take it out of context in the post I'm replying to, to try to pretend I'm wholeheartedly relying upon her as a "source" and then lying about it.

You are beneath contempt.

176 posted on 08/18/2022 10:10:28 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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