Posted on 08/05/2022 2:11:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Why Phil Collins didn't like Pink Floyd Thomas Leatham THU 4TH AUG 2022 13.30 BST
We mostly know Phil Collins for his remarkable solo career that spawned the 1980s hits, ‘In the Air Tonight, ‘Another Day in Paradise’ and the collaborative effort ‘Easy Lover’ with Earth, Wind & Fire’s Philip Bailey.
Yet, Collins is also known for his time in the prog-rock pioneers Genesis, whom he joined in 1970. When singer Peter Gabriel left the group in 1975, Collins took on singing duties, even though he continued to be their drummer. Gabriel had become disillusioned with the music industry and wanted to spend more time with his family.
Collins once opened up on his tastes – and distastes – for other prog-rock bands: “I was a big early Yes fan, less so. Even though I like the guys in the band, I didn’t relate to a lot of their music after the first two or three albums. Jethro Tull musically. Floyd, I was never a big Floyd fan.”
“I probably become more of a Floyd fan in later years than I was at the time, even though I saw them at the Marquee with Arnold Layne,” Collins added. “I was aware of what they were doing. But I never was really a fan. I was in a band that was kind of being always put in the same box as that lot. But never felt that we actually were in the same box. But we probably were.”
Genesis began to slightly lean towards a more pop-orientated sound with Collins on vocals, and the live shows became less theatrical with the charismatic Gabriel out of the picture. Many of the band’s previous albums had been inspired by fantasy, but from 1975 onwards, they wanted to move away from such inspirations.
Elsewhere, Collins also revealed his distaste for another English prog-rock powerhouse, Emerson, Lake & Palmer. He said, “I don’t like ELP. I don’t like the way they are as people. Emerson’s alright. I don’t like Carl Palmer’s drumming; I don’t like the music. It’s much too neurotic. And it’s too on one level.”
He added, “To be fair, I haven’t listened to that much ELP. But what I’ve heard, and I’ve seen backstage, I just don’t like them. I would never doubt the fact that they’re excellent musicians. I don’t like the kind of things [they] did. But the sound on the record is a fine sound. And of the three of them, I like Emerson, mainly because he used to say nice things about us.”
I think he'd die for Beethoven.....
I think Hitler would have been Rammstein fan.
“The Geese & The Ghost” was well-worn on my turntable at the time.
I could see him in the mosh pit of a Rammstein concert.
btw - saw “Musical Box” (tribute band) do the Lamb Lies down on Broadway album. Genesis sold them all the props, videos, etc. A worthy effort.
This was supposed to be Phil’s first solo song, but the label pulled it.
Silver Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu9FYJjQ4JM
RE: Modern Prog
Perhaps you should give Neal Morse a try - or his “band” Transatlantic. Look up “Transatlantic - The Whirlwind” on youtube sometime.
And of course, there’s always Marillion and many others.
Prog’s not dead, you just have to look a little deeper to find it these days.
Re: A-holes
Sirius XM Deep Tracks has an interview with someone, I think one of the guys from REO Speedwagon, talking about Steve Tyler and Aerosmith. That when they went on tour warming up for Aerosmith, they got treated first class, with backstage passes, entré to the after party, etc. And that he’d learned from that, and when REO made it big, they always treated their warm up acts similarly. It’s just a nice story the complete opposite of the big egos / a-holes that is so common.
>> One of the best prog bands was Kansas. Song for America.
I saw them about 6-7 years ago at Cobb Energy Center in Atlanta, about 5th row left of center. They were still great!
Musically, Pink Floyd is 1000 times better than Phil Collins.
But lyrics writer Roger Waters IS a nut.
My fav Steve Hackett song - “Let Me Count The Ways”.
Played the heck out of the Voyage of the Acolyte album. Phil’s playing on “Ace of Wands” is fantastic.
The guys from RUSH said the same thing about KISS who they opened up for back in the day. “Say what you will about Kiss’ music, but they sure knew how to put on a show and were very professional, worked hard, and treated their fans and us very well.”
Roger Waters is NOT Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd is not a “he”. It’s a band.
IMO, The Wall is not their best album. There’s some good stuff, but also a lot of Roger Waters garbage.
Which one's Pink?
LOL, then there was what Gene said about Rush.....Farm Animals?!?!?!
Have you seen the YYZ video they just put out? Alex and Geddy make a cameo at the end, it’s pretty funny.
“Emerson, for all his exhibitionism on stage, was a class act off stage and gentle soul who primarily wanted to be remembered as a composer.”
Back in the 1990s I couldn’t find a certain ELP song in sheet music form anywhere, even online, aside from Keith Emerson’s publishing company. The check (just $11 for one song) was to be made payable to “Keith Emerson” himself and not some company name like “Keith Emerson Ltd” or anything like that.
I figured as well-off as he had to be, he wouldn’t cash my little check.
But he did (OK it probably WAS a company, but it sure didn’t look that way). :-)
He’s been gone for over a decade now but there never was a better keyboard player in his genre of music — except maybe Rick Wakeman. If pressed, I’ll call it a tie.
Not sure if you're serious or making a joke based on the line from "Have A Cigar".
I wouldn’t slag off Tony Banks. Listen to his piano intro of “Firth of Fifth” or his solo on “Riding The Scree”.
You should know me better than that, LOL!
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