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Miners Explore Amazon Basin To Support "Green" Energy; New York Times Horrified
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 3 Aug, 2022 | Francis Menton

Posted on 08/04/2022 5:02:14 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 08/04/2022 5:02:14 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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The real goal is to eliminate private vehicles and to have the government in control of where you will travel by public transportation.


2 posted on 08/04/2022 5:02:26 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Send Maggie down there.


3 posted on 08/04/2022 5:07:18 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: MtnClimber
Sooo......"Green Energy" is toxic!

😊


4 posted on 08/04/2022 5:09:45 AM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! R)
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To: MtnClimber

Glencore....that was or is Marc Rich’s company, same one that received Saddam Hussein oil vouchers.


5 posted on 08/04/2022 5:12:28 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: MtnClimber
[U]sage of energy is a human right, but all actual known methods of producing energy are environmentally unacceptable.

They really don't want human beings to exist with any sort of comfort or security at all.

Reliable, relatively inexpensive energy = freedom

6 posted on 08/04/2022 5:14:08 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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BTW, PRC China is leading the effort!

https://www.culturalsurvival.org/news/chinas-global-push-resources-makes-waves-amazon-basin


7 posted on 08/04/2022 5:15:12 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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Your not suppose to mine for those rare and dangerous minerals need for greenie battery’s.. Your suppose to wish for them, and then Mother Nature will provide them for everyone......free of charge.


8 posted on 08/04/2022 5:18:13 AM PDT by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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To: airborne

The rare metals for electric vehicle batteries is the driving force behind this rape of the Amazon Basin. Do not make it so urgent to locate, extract, transport and refine these rare earth metals, by maybe not putting the all-out push for electrifying all road vehicles using exotic storage batteries as the propellant.

In terms of engineering, using electric motors to propel road vehicles is an excellent idea. But the means of providing this electric wattage to drive those motors is still sadly lacking, and shall remain so until a means of generating the electricity on-board as needed is made widely available. The hybrid internal combustion engine driving an electrical generator, to power the electric motors at the wheels, was one such approach, but is being quickly abandoned in the haste to phase out ALL “fossil fuels”, a fool’s errand if ever there was. We shall be using various forms of hydrocarbon-based fuels for decades if not centuries to come, because as an energy source, these fuels are compact, easily stored, and have an energy density per pound that just about outmatches any other system, except nuclear.


9 posted on 08/04/2022 5:28:34 AM PDT by alloysteel (There are folks running the government who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches - Will Rogers)
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It’s way to much to expect

It’s way to much too much...

10 posted on 08/04/2022 5:28:58 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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The end game is taking away the commoners’ private vehicles.


11 posted on 08/04/2022 5:30:08 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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The question I keep asking (to myself and/or my dog) is whether or not enough Americans still have strong enough of a thirst for freedom and enough resolve to fight this effort for a global socialist government.

The thought of global socialist governance should make our skin crawl. The thought of anyone or anything impeding our God given freedom should quickly bring anger. This assault on sanity (climate change, gender madness, etc.) should be met with ridicule and a hard stop. This incessant campaign on the left to silence Christians, destroy normalcy, create racial strife, destroy what’s left of our good institutions and culture should also make us want to fight.

I think conservatism is a small rudder on a very big ship. It’s going to take a lot to turn this mess around.


12 posted on 08/04/2022 5:31:29 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Ellen Ate Dynamite Good Bye Ellen)
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I wonder if The Times reporter is aware that the Yanomami practice the most primitive and destructive and polluting method of agriculture known to man — “slash and burn”? Is he aware that they hunt monkeys, and that they use poison-tipped arrows to kill them with the slightest scratch? Oh, the horror!


13 posted on 08/04/2022 5:36:46 AM PDT by Migraine ( )
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“There was a man in the jungle trying to make ends meet
Found himself one day with an axe in his hand
When a voice said “Buddy can you spare that tree
We gotta save the world, starting with your land”
It was a rock ‘n’ roll millionaire from the USA
Doing three to the gallon in a big white car
And he sang and he sang ‘til he polluted the air
And he blew a lot of smoke from a Cuban cigar.”

- Joe Jackson, Obvious Song


14 posted on 08/04/2022 5:38:08 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: alloysteel
The hybrid internal combustion engine driving an electrical generator, to power the electric motors at the wheels, was one such approach, but is being quickly abandoned in the haste to phase out ALL “fossil fuels”, a fool’s errand if ever there was.

And well on its way to becoming a sensible reliable type of vehicle. With an appropriately sized smaller battery module and a powerful small displacement turbo engine, the car (or pickup) would have the best of all worlds; good high performance, good gas mileage, all wheel drive and extreme longevity.

Small, constant RPM engines have better fuel economy, and the turbo can provide decent power on demand to drive the electric motors. The best advantage shown by hybrids is the elimination of the obvious weak spot in modern vehicles....the automatic transmission. Most cars in the junkyard are there for that very reason.

Of course longevity and reliability would be the enemy of the manufacturers and the industry. Maybe that's why they are phasing them out.

15 posted on 08/04/2022 5:44:54 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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Wind Turbine blades have an inner scaffolding of Balsa Wood. All the plantations growing Balsa wood have been emptied.

The Amazon Rainforest is being clear-cut for Balsa Wood for Green Energy.


16 posted on 08/04/2022 5:59:07 AM PDT by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind bweek.lows too much)
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Remember the major deal the Greenies made about McDonald beef was coming from cattle ranches where they had cut down the Amazon rain forest?

Now, they are going to cut down the rain forest to mine for Lithium, cobalt, nickle and its okay because it makes green batteries.

I agree with your assessment of the hybrid drive vehicles. I would consider buying almost any TOYOTA hyrid vehicle at this point. I wish they would incorporate them into their Tacoma pickup truck. I am on my third Tacoma. Currently driving a 2012. I am staring to consider a replacement.

17 posted on 08/04/2022 6:01:15 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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Typical. Leftists have no concept of the details of any technology, nor the indirect costs of their stupid schemes to “go green”. Yes, let’s all stop mining coal, which in a good deposit, cones out of the ground basically ready to use, and switch over to mining rare earth minerals, which require extracting tons of material to then refine a few pounds of rare earth elements; most of which are toxic if inhaled.


18 posted on 08/04/2022 6:06:37 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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Anything that riles up left wing NYT is ok by me. Waiting for the smell of burning hair.


19 posted on 08/04/2022 6:08:42 AM PDT by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed with the clot-shot, the more evidence I see supporting my decision.)
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“Refining involves separation of an element from its ore through the removal of impurities. So as to decrease the cost of transportation of the huge quantity of ore needed to refine, refining is often done at the mine itself. Refinement occurs through physical separation of the REEs by various chemical techniques, sometimes involving thousands of steps. Unfortunately, all REEs and their respective ores are different and require different chemical techniques for refining (depending on melting point and vapor pressure, as well as other physical properties of the element).

Typical techniques for refinement include milling, where ore is ground down to fine particles and then separated in a variety of ways, followed by cracking, where the it undergo a series of chemical treatments. Due to the large number of steps the REEs must go through to be purified requiring many different chemicals and reagents for these processes, there is a huge amount of toxic and radioactive waste generated from byproducts, which must be handled either through recycling, or by pumping it to a holding tank. The waste presents various health and environmental issues that must be dealt with at the mining site (see green mining page). “

https://web.mit.edu/12.000/www/m2016/finalwebsite/elements/ree.html


20 posted on 08/04/2022 6:08:58 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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