[BroJoeK]

livius: "Northern people didn’t particularly hate blacks,..."

DiogenesLamp: "To the contrary. They hated black people with a passion bordering on insanity."

You always have to translate DiogenesLamp's words from Democrat-speak to truthful English.
What DiogenesLamp truly means by those words is: "I, DiogenesLamp hate black people with a passion bordering on insanity, but since I'm a Democrat and Democrats always lie about such things, I am projecting my own hatreds onto Republicans that I don't know, never met, have no understanding of who or what they are, but who just must, must be evil, evil because otherwise who could I project my own wickedness onto?"

With Democrats it's always the lie, and the bigger the lie, the better.

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Yes, the way that Diogenes insists on things like that does "border on insanity." It's hard for him to admit that things were more complicated than he imagines. Some Northerners did hate Blacks. Some pitied them. Some sympathized with them and helped them. Many of them just didn't think of them much al all. Even in states that "officially" forbade African-American settlement, free blacks lived without much trouble from their neighbors.

"Racism" as a concept didn't really exist back then. Everybody in those days was by our standards somewhat racist. But there was a way in which they weren't so different from today. Zoning regulations keep certain types of people from living in certain neighborhoods. Does that mean people living there hate the people they don't want to live with? Sometimes, but mostly not, I think. It was more blatantly a matter of race in those days, but it wasn't necessarily hatred.

[DiogenesLamp]

What DiogenesLamp truly means by those words is: "I, DiogenesLamp hate black people with a passion bordering on insanity,

Now that's a smear, and I expected better of you. I am thick skinned and I don't really care what people say about me, but if you were saying this to another person I would demand that you apologize for saying such a nasty thing.

I posted a link to examples of just how badly the Northern state of Illinois hated black people. I did not make it up, there is real evidence to show there was widespread hatred for blacks in the North. Insane levels of hatred.