[BroJoeK]

DiogenesLamp: "Not illegal. Specifically authorized by the Declaration of Independence which declares it a right given by God.
The right to Independence is a human right."

And from the same provenance as an unlimited "right" to abortion -- meaning no Founder ever proposed or supported such an unlimited "right".
Our 1776 Declaration of Independence authorizes no unlimited "right of secession".

What our Founders did support & practice was a "right" to "secede" under two, but only two conditions:

1. From necessity as in 1776 and

2. By mutual consent as in 1788.

Any other form of "secession" they considered rebellion & treason and strongly opposed them.

[Lazamataz]

I *KNEW* this thread was gonna blow up when I saw the title!

The REAL cause of the Civil War

Someday I'm going to write a thread titled

HEY! ALL YOU CIVIL WAR DEBATERS! ARGUE HERE!

Guarenteed it makes it to over 1000 posts. LOL

[DiogenesLamp]

And from the same provenance as an unlimited "right" to abortion...

No, that's just made up crap by the 1973 Supreme court and theoretically based on the 14th amendment, which was also made up crap that was never properly ratified because of Union guns pointed at people's backs.

The Right to Independence is expressly articulated in the Declaration of Independence. The document says the right comes from God.

It's written down in black and white and signed by all the representatives of the 13 original states.

So no, it's not like "abortion rights" at all.