People decide for themselves what is painful and unbearable. I am not arrogant enough to believe I should have the right to decide for them.
But if you wish to invoke our Founders imprimatur, then you will need to go by their definitions, and they regarded the British declaration of war on Americans as a "necessary" cause for revolution.
Like this one? "He has incited domestic insurrections amongst us..." (Meaning slave rebellions.)
Nothing happening in 1860 remotely fit our Founders' understanding of either "necessity" or "mutual consent."
There was no "mutual consent" with the British, and it astonishes me that you continue trying to hang on to that silly argument when it clearly is not related to anything the founders did.
They decided unilaterally that they wanted out of the British Union and so they just left.
And as I have pointed out to you numerous times, the Canadians, under the exact same rule as Massachusetts, did not see the colonies reasons for leaving as "necessity."
DiogenesLamp: "Like this one? "He has incited domestic insurrections amongst us..." (Meaning slave rebellions.)"
Noooo... by "declaration of war" I was referring to documents like this, and this.
DiogenesLamp: "There was no "mutual consent" with the British, and it astonishes me that you continue trying to hang on to that silly argument when it clearly is not related to anything the founders did.
They decided unilaterally that they wanted out of the British Union and so they just left."
Again, you refuse to listen to simple reason.
The fact is, our Founders believed in, and practiced, "secession" under two, but only two, conditions:
DiogenesLamp: "And as I have pointed out to you numerous times, the Canadians, under the exact same rule as Massachusetts, did not see the colonies reasons for leaving as "necessity.""
Nooo... the Canadians' situation was vastly different, beginning with numerous "Intolerable Acts" which did not apply to Canada.
In 1775 there were a series of "Restraining Acts" which punished New England for Canadians' benefit!
Most important, Britain's 1775 Declaration of War against Americans did NOT apply to Canada.
And, of course, Brits did not attack Canadians as they did Americans at Lexington, Concord, Bunker Hill, etc.
English speakers in Canada well understood that they depended on the British Army to protect them against their French-speaking neighbors and against their English-speaking American neighbors.
So there was no similarity between the American & Canadian esperiences.