To: jmacusa
The bastards opened fire on Ft. Sumter ... Because Lincoln sent a fleet of warships to attack them.
Tell the whole truth.
362 posted on
08/02/2022 12:30:36 PM PDT by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: DiogenesLamp
Bullshit stupid. He sent on resupply ship.
Take your meds and shut up.
397 posted on
08/02/2022 10:50:17 PM PDT by
jmacusa
(Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
To: DiogenesLamp; jmacusa; higgmeister
jmacusa:
"The bastards opened fire on Ft. Sumter ..." DiogenesLamp: "Because Lincoln sent a fleet of warships to attack them. Tell the whole truth."
The whole truth is, it didn't matter to Jefferson Davis if Lincoln sent only a rowboat, manned by missionaries, Davis would demand Fort Sumter's surrender and "reduce" it if Major Anderson refused:
"It is scarcely to be doubted that for political reasons the U.S. govt. will avoid making an attack so long as the hope of retaining the border states remains.
There would be to us an advantage in so placing them that an attack by them would be a necessity, but when we are ready to relieve our territory and jurisdiction of the presence of a foreign garrison that advantage is overbalanced by other considerations."
[Jefferson Davis to Braxton Bragg, 3 Apr 1861]
Those "other considerations" included prominently, Virginia's promise to secede & join the Confederacy:
"Virginian Roger Pryor, who, speaking to a Charleston audience on April 10, 1861, said, 'But I assure you that just as certain as tomorrow's sun will rise upon us, just so certain will Virginia be a member of the Southern Confederacy; and I will tell your Governor what will put her in the Southern Confederacy in less than an hour by Shrewsbury clock. Strike a blow!'
[W. A. Swanberg, _First Blood: The Story of Fort Sumter,_ p. 289]"
And, just in case Davis couldn't get war started at Fort Sumter, he had a backup plan for Fort Pickens at Pensacola, Florida:
"The case of Pensacola then is reduced [to] the more palpable elements of a military problem and your measures may without disturbing views be directed to the capture of Fort Pickens and the defence of the harbor. You will soon have I hope a force sufficient to occupy all the points necessary for that end. As many additional troops as may be required can be promptly furnished."
[Jefferson Davis to Braxton Bragg, 3 Apr 1861]"
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403 posted on
08/03/2022 4:40:26 AM PDT by
BroJoeK
(future DDG 134 -- we remember)
To: DiogenesLamp
Tell the whole truth.
excerpt of orders to the senior naval officer of the Sumter mission from the Secretary of the Navy
“Should the authorities at Charleston, however, refuse to permit or attempt to prevent the vessel or vessels having supplies on board from entering the harbor or from peaceably proceeding to Fort Sumter, you will protect the transports or boats of the expedition in the object of this mission — disposing of your force in such a manner as to open the way for their ingress, and afford, so far as practicable, security to the men and boats, and repelling, by force if necessary, all obstructions to provisioning the fort and reinforcing it; for in case of resistance to the peaceable primary object of the expedition, a reinforcement of the garrison will also be attempted.”
Nothing in these orders directs an attack against Charleston or Confederate forces surrounding Charleston. Force is authorized only if the resupply effort is opposed by Confederate forces. That is the whole truth.
The naval forces followed the orders to the letter. Even when Sumter was being bombarded, they would not fire on the Confederate Forces because their orders authorized force only to aid the resupply effort, which was never attempted.
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