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A revolution against a monarchy an ocean away is entirely different from armed , illegal secession against a duly and freely elected government put in office in a free and open election Reb.

Major fail on your part. Try again.

In your on musings. The comparison is exactly the same circumstance because secession was not illegal, it was an understood right.

Our U. S. Constitution is a document defining the limits on Federal authority. The whole Bill of Rights and especially the Tenth Amendment states anything not in this document is reserved to the States or the People.

You state and agree that secession is not in the Constitution, hence it was not illegal, in spite of what revisionist Justices claimed after the fact.

A revolution against a monarchy an ocean away is entirely different from armed , illegal secession against a duly and freely elected government put in office in a free and open election Reb.

Not illegal. Specifically authorized by the Declaration of Independence which declares it a right given by God.

The right to Independence is a human right.

higgmeister: "So it was fine for our Original Thirteen Colonies to release themselves from the oppressive British government but when the Federal Union became oppressive, it's fair game to kill the treasonous "Rebs.""

jmacusa: "A revolution against a monarchy an ocean away is entirely different from armed , illegal secession against a duly and freely elected government put in office in a free and open election Reb."

Right, and it's important to remember that more than a year before the American Declaration on July 4, 1776, the Brits had already effectively declared war and begun waging war against Americans.
That was the reason for the 1776 Declaration saying, among other items:

"He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people."

Nothing remotely resembling such necessary conditions for "secession" existed in 1860 when Southern Fire Eaters began organizing to declare secession, Confederacy and eventually war on the United States.
Nor did anything exist resembling the mutual consent achieved by our Founders 1788 -- in "seceding" from the old Articles of Confederation to their new Constitution.

So, Confederates first seceded at pleasure and then provoked, started & formally declared war against the United States (May 6, 1861).
Confederates hoped for & expected aid from European allies, just as 1776 revolutionaries received.
But Europeans could not stomach supporting the Southern slavocracy, and so the Confederacy was defeated militarily, just as our 1776 Revolutionaries would have been, without major help from such countries as France, Spain and the Netherlands, among others.