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To: lonestar67

Let me try to encapsulate my view

Ukraine a thoroughly corrupt oligarchic system with autocratic leadership similar to Russia except leader is weaker is not worth our involvement

Second this eastern oblasts war has gone on for a long time and several referendums show the Russian ethnic sizable majority wants out

Ukrop has used heavy handed means to thwart that since 2014 and yes at times with neo Nazi nationalists militias that has killed 1000s of civilians

That is where the real fighting has been

I see no reason to support any of Ukraine or western objectives on that nor do I think Ukraine is worth the toil

Our foreign policy and media seems to have a one size fits all on Russia for many reasons they deem appropriate

My feeling is it’s often misguided as in Syria where our media lied yet again about a chemical attack we retaliated against

I think Assad warts and all brought better stability to Syria

We seem to have a foreign policy determined to exploit existential threats or run to war with no end in sight and I don’t have much faith in them

It’s no coincidence many NGO groups behind these pro uke propaganda sites are funded by defense industry

This war was so avoidable

Let the Donbas seek their own way and leave Ukraine out of NATO

Far better than this costly war

I don’t think we’ve ever funded anything like this since lend lease and for such a minor objective of such a corrupted non free entity

Trump would have forced a deal I think which is why Putin waited

Figured he’d get more from proxy war with Biden admin rather than a deal with Trump

I think the globalists hate Putin mostly cause to them he’s even worse than Trump culture wise

A regular Neanderthal

But he is getting older so we shall see


642 posted on 08/22/2022 8:32:13 AM PDT by wardaddy (Lawyers guns and money……I lived it…. Now I'm old…. I have wonderful children)
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To: wardaddy

“...several referendums show the Russian ethnic sizable majority wants out...”

I’ve told you twice already, Russian speakers in the Donbas ain’t ethnic Russians in large part. Check the last names in the Donbas. There often Yeremenkos and other typical Ukrainian names. The Ukrainian language survives in Donbas in the smaller agricultural villages. How in Hades can you put any faith in a referendum when Russian agents and troops were there? How is it thousands of Russian speaking Donbas Ukrainians are busy fighting for Ukraine. It is because they remember the 1920s, the 1930s, and 2014. Russia wants to replace Ukrainians and you want to reward them for their genocide. You’ve been in Moscow’s camp on this thing since day one. What is your ulterior motive Mister Mississippi now in Tennessee?


646 posted on 08/22/2022 9:09:06 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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