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Ford electrifies law enforcement with F-150 Lightning police edition
New Atlas ^ | July 28, 2022 | By Paul Ridden

Posted on 07/28/2022 12:46:14 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

“F 150 Lightning charging a Mustang Mach E.”

Nice side job! Giving a 2 hour ‘jump start’ to some idiot who doesn’t understand that a discharged battery means they’re not going very far.


101 posted on 07/29/2022 5:52:54 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: heavy metal
The point wasn't to replace ALL patrol vehicles with the F-150 Lightning.

The point was that there are uses for a pickup in a large police force, and the F-150 Lightning could be used to fulfill those roles. Just its power generation capabilities would be useful at nighttime accident scenes for lighting.

102 posted on 07/29/2022 6:03:56 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Yo-Yo

state highway departments handle lighting at crash scenes...

i was a manager and tow truck operator for a couple of automotive towing and recovery services for almost 26 years...

electric vehicles are worthless in a 24/7/365 application...


103 posted on 07/29/2022 7:49:31 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: traditional2

“Not even close to accurate.”

Darn close!

“Including TAX subsidies?”

What subsidies?


104 posted on 07/29/2022 8:15:15 AM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Yo-Yo
The point was that there are uses for a pickup in a large police force, and the F-150 Lightning could be used to fulfill those roles. Just its power generation capabilities would be useful at nighttime accident scenes for lighting.

Ford has gas powered trucks that do the same thing...

105 posted on 07/29/2022 8:19:10 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: heavy metal
electric vehicles are worthless in a 24/7/365 application...

I agree with that statement. I disagree that electric vehicles are worthless in any law enforcement role. In certain non-patrol roles where carrying or towing capacity is required, they might work well. And the Lightning would certainly be handy in the field where AC power is required without the hassle or noise of a gasoline generator.

The Lightning can provide up to 10kW of power in both 110V and 220V, and provide 30kW-H per day for three days.

No, its not going to replace the patrol car. But it has its uses.

106 posted on 07/29/2022 9:33:49 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Yo-Yo

there’s no mention of range...

these vehicles have proven incapable of towing anything long distance...

it’s worthles if it can’t return on it’s own power after working a 12 hour shift...

then there’s the added expenses of charging stations installations at police stations coupled with the original price tag of the vehicles...

the only use these overglorified golf carts have is raising taxes to pay for this idiocy...


107 posted on 07/29/2022 9:52:18 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: Red Badger

I shall wait for the inevitable YouTube video of one of these police trucks having to break off a high speed pursuit in order to charge the battery.


108 posted on 07/29/2022 9:56:51 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (3,618,358 users on Truth Social)
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To: heavy metal
there’s no mention of range...

There's no mention of range because the F-150's range is already well known. The extended range (ER) version is 320 miles.

https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2022/03/21/ford-f-150-lightning-epa-estimated-range.html

109 posted on 07/29/2022 11:53:02 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Red Badger

So stupid.


110 posted on 07/29/2022 11:53:39 AM PDT by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: Yo-Yo

your failure to address the rest of my post #107 indicates you want to play stupid games...


111 posted on 07/29/2022 12:10:17 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: heavy metal
Sorry for not rebutting every single point you make. I'll try to do better.

these vehicles have proven incapable of towing anything long distance...

https://electrek.co/2022/05/31/ford-f-150-lightning-loses-range-towing-23-foot-airstream-trailer/

I was able to tow the Airstream around 30 miles today and understand how the Lightning does with some weight behind it. The TL;DR is that with a 23-foot Airstream, I am seeing 0.8mi/kWh. Compared to the 1.5-1.8 I have seen on my road trips thus far without the trailer, it’s around 50% of the range when towing.

For a police department, they probably won't need too much cross country towing of a bomb disposal trailer.

it’s worthles if it can’t return on it’s own power after working a 12 hour shift...

Again, it isn't meant to be a replacement for a regular patrol car.

then there’s the added expenses of charging stations installations at police stations coupled with the original price tag of the vehicles...

Most police departments don't have their own gas pumps, they refuel at fleet gas stations. The F-150 Lightning could recharge at a local 150 kW DC Fast Charger, were it can be charged from 15% to 80% in 41 minutes.

The 80 amp 240V charger can recharge the vehicle overnight, and will require professional installation, but the cost isn't outrageous.

the only use these overglorified golf carts have is raising taxes to pay for this idiocy...

You are discounting the lower cost of operation for the F-150 Lightning vs. a gasoline F-150. EVs require less maintenance, there are no oil changes, and are cheaper per mile to operate than gasoline.

Look, you hate EVs, I get that. I don't think they're ready for prime time, either, to take over all roles in a police department or in real life.

But 2022's EVs are not the 1990s GM EV-1. At least have an open mind.

112 posted on 07/29/2022 1:15:36 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Yo-Yo

i don’t hate ev’s...

they just aren’t practical and cost effective for all applications...

check out suwannee county florida and explain to me how this will work in my area...


113 posted on 07/29/2022 2:15:52 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: heavy metal
they just aren’t practical and cost effective for all applications...

On this, we whole-heartedly agree.

As to Suwannee County, I don't know enough about their department to know if they have a use for a pickup truck in their daily operations.

Again, clearly, not for daily road patrol. Do they have a SWAT unit that sometimes need to haul equipment to the range? Do they have a bomb disposal unit that needs to pull a bomb disposal trailer on occasion? Do they have a special events group that need to haul barricades occasionally?

114 posted on 07/29/2022 3:04:54 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Yo-Yo

“google earth” suwannee county florida and click on the aerial view...

i have a 10 acre compound in one of those patches of woods you see dotted throughout the farmland between live oak and branford...


115 posted on 07/29/2022 3:15:41 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: Red Badger

All the car thief has to do is steal a gas car and outlast the electric police vehicles.


116 posted on 07/29/2022 4:50:26 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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