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'If I can't have them, neither can you': Illinois father, 35, is charged with murder for drowning his three children, aged 2, 3, and 5, in a BATHTUB before putting them in the bedroom of his home after 'domestic dispute' with estranged wife
Daily Mail UK ^ | June 15, 2022 | Alyssa Guzman

Posted on 06/15/2022 10:45:51 AM PDT by Morgana

An Illinois father, who drowned his three children in a bathtub and then placed their bodies in the bedroom of his home, has been charged with murder.

Jason E. Karels, 35, of Chicago, drowned his children one-by-one in the bathtub of his Camden Lane home on Monday after he and his wife Debra recently split up, a prosecutor said at a bond court hearing on Wednesday.

His children - Bryant, 5; Cassidy, 3; and Gideon, 2 - were spending the weekend with their father when their mother, Debra, found their bodies in the bedroom after calling for a welfare check for Karels, who was said had 'severe mental health problems.'

Karels was not on the property when she discovered their children in his home. The pair shared custody of the children, but did not live together.

Inside the home, police found a note written by Karels to Debra, with one line reading: 'If I can't have them, then neither can you,' prosecutors said. Authorities say the killings appear to have been 'motivated from a domestic situation.'

'Unfortunately, there was domestic abuse in their relationship and Debbie was finally getting the strength to leave him and proceed with a divorce,' her sister-in-law Christina Neuman Berg, explained to the Daily Beast.

'Debbie wanted to maintain a relationship with her kids' father and let him visit them, and now we know that was a horrible mistake.'

Preliminary autopsy results showed all three died from drowning, Chief Deputy Coroner Steve Newton of the Lake County Coroner's Office said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: roving; Lurker

I’ve heard it said that pedos don’t last long in GP in a prison. Perhaps the same thing goes for child murderers.


41 posted on 06/15/2022 12:41:21 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian ( Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Richard Speck and John Wayne Gacy both died of old age in the Illinois prison system.

L


42 posted on 06/15/2022 12:59:58 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

We don’t have the death penalty in Illinois anymore. Our then governor, RINO
George Ryan, did away with it.


43 posted on 06/15/2022 1:01:08 PM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: BBQToadRibs2

I have never, EVER, understood that sick reasoning!


44 posted on 06/15/2022 1:02:33 PM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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Sob…immediate hanging…


45 posted on 06/15/2022 1:08:40 PM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: T.B. Yoits

We had a murder here where the husband and wife were having marital problems. The wife was out of town, the husband killed ALL SIX of their children and the family dog, with a rubber mallet!
He spent the rest of his natural life in prison.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Nelson

It did make national news.


46 posted on 06/15/2022 1:11:01 PM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I agree. Put it on television, too.


47 posted on 06/15/2022 1:12:17 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Bus No. 2525)
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To: Morgana

He should be taken from his cell to a tree and hanged right now. But he won’t. By this time next year, he will be running the streets again.


48 posted on 06/15/2022 1:14:49 PM PDT by sport
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To: Morgana

Evil. Utterly evil. Beyond comprehension.


49 posted on 06/15/2022 1:16:05 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Red in Blue PA

That will work. I would prefer a length and a tree limb. Put about 6 inches of air between the soles of his shoes and the ground. And stretch his neck about 4 inches.


50 posted on 06/15/2022 1:26:12 PM PDT by sport
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To: Morgana

Yeah, that joint custody thing. Judges love it, no matter how many times this happens. There was a case here in Maryland where the father had a documented severe mental illness and the mother, a pediatrician, pleaded for supervised custody, but them high and mighty judges don’t want to hear it, and gave him unsupervised weekends. He killed their three little kids.

This is not to say that mentally ill women do not do the same thing. They do. But judges know best and believe wholeheartedly in NO-FAULT, joint custody in ALL CASES, with few exceptions.


51 posted on 06/15/2022 1:54:12 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (“Government is the problem.” --Milton Friedman)
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To: Morgana
More than three decades of FBI homicide data shows patterns stand out when parents kill their children: Three out of four child victims are younger than 5. In 56% of all cases, fathers are the killers. In murders with multiple victims, fathers are the culprit 70% of the time.

When parents kill: FBI data reveal disturbing patterns

Judges who ignore expert testimony about the mental health of a parent and inflict unsupervised joint custody should pay a price, such as suspension or disbarment, when child rape or homicide happens as a result.

52 posted on 06/15/2022 2:00:27 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (“Government is the problem.” --Milton Friedman)
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To: Lurker

The clown was executed may 1994


53 posted on 06/15/2022 2:22:34 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Keyhopper

I stand corrected.

L


54 posted on 06/15/2022 2:59:23 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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