Stuff from Beyond the Trees in the other forest (CTH):
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Charles Dodgson
May 19, 2022 9:29 am
Reply to CM-TX
When I throw something like that out and a lib apologist says “Come on, don’t be one of those conspiracy wackos”, I find it useful to respond with a question:
“OK, maybe he’s not trying to destroy the country. But If Joe Biden WAS trying to destroy the country, what would he be doing different than he is right now?”
You can literally see the brain freeze up for about a second and then it’s self preservation neurons fire and they respond with “Orange Man Bad!” or some similar non-sequitor.
But the great thing about that question — “If XXX was in fact trying to do YYY, how would that look different”, is the uncommitted that may be part of a group conversation really do think about it and can see the inability of the lib to answer coherently.
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SonicBoom
May 19, 2022 10:03 am
Busted:
https://richardsonpost.com/howellwoltz/27054/western-leaders-tied-to-ukraine-bioweapons-labs/
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larion
May 19, 2022 11:25 am
From 2021:
Medical Nonconformity and Its Persecution
The tendency for society to exert pressure on its members to conform to certain behavioral norms is nothing new. It’s easy to see how, in the earliest human societies where basic survival was precarious at best, the nonconformist might represent a threat to group stability, and would therefore be discouraged by whatever means necessary.
Today, the instinct to hate and fear those who behave differently survives, even when it makes little sense for the health of the community, and as with so many of our instincts, it is incumbent upon us to use reason and self-control to rise above our more primitive tendencies which, if not mastered, can easily lead to persecution and cruelty towards our fellow man.
There are many ways in which conformity continues to be demanded by the powers that be, but of particular interest in the age of COVID-19 is the push for obedience to a medical establishment represented by political appointees.
https://brownstone.org/articles/medical-nonconformity-and-its-persecution/
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GGGGggggggrrrrrrrrrr
May 19, 2022 8:36 am
“Victoria Nuland/Robert Kagan duo & fam are pushing for an expanded U.S. military invasion of Syria and baiting Republicans for not joining more enthusiastically in the anti-Russian witch hunt over Moscow’s alleged help in electing Donald Trump.
In a Washington Post op-ed on March 7, Robert Kagan, a co-founder of the Project for the New American Century and a key architect of the Iraq War, jabbed at Republicans for serving as “Russia’s accomplices after the fact” by not investigating more aggressively.
Then, Frederick Kagan, director of the Critical Threats Project at the neocon American Enterprise Institute, and his wife, Kimberly Kagan, president of her own think tank, Institute for the Study of War, touted the idea of a bigger U.S. invasion of Syria in a Wall Street Journal op-ed on March 15.
Yet, as much standing as the Kagans retain in Official Washington’s world of think tanks and op-ed placements, they remain mostly outside the new Trump-era power centers looking in, although they seem to have detected a door being forced open.” [snip]
“This extraordinary husband-and-wife duo makes quite a one-two punch for the Military-Industrial Complex, an inside-outside team that creates the need for more military spending, applies political pressure to ensure higher appropriations, and watches as thankful weapons manufacturers lavish grants on like-minded hawkish Washington think tanks. “Not only does the broader community of neoconservatives stand to benefit but so do other members of the Kagan clan, including Robert’s brother Frederick at the American Enterprise Institute and his wife Kimberly, who runs her own shop called the Institute for the Study of War.”
But things didn’t quite turn out as the Kagans had drawn them up. The neocon Republicans stumbled through the GOP primaries losing out to Donald Trump and then – after Hillary Clinton muscled aside Sen. Bernie Sanders to claim the Democratic nomination – she fumbled away the general election to Trump.
Link: The Kagans Are Back; Wars to Follow – Consortium News
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Cjzak
May 19, 2022 9:48 am
Reply to Right to reply
So paying Venezuela to ship oil to Europe while borrowing money from China to send to Ukraine per Rand Paul yesterday. Neat financial tricks. When does Europe pay Venezuela for their own oil? When do we stop sending money we don’t have to any country but our own?
Better question is WHEN DO AMERICANS STAND UP AND TELL THE CLOWNS IN DC TO STOP? AND MEAN IT!?
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Listingstarboard
May 19, 2022 7:46 am
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2022/05/17/bill-gates-who-paralyzed-490000-children-in-india-gives-every-indication-of-having-a-fetish-not-a-desire-to-help/ When you think about Ed Buck it’s not so far fetched.
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burnett044
May 19, 2022 7:20 am
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/video/2022/05/shocking-antifa-colluding-w-cps-threat-of-marburg-rises-neo-nazi-furries-terrorize-america/
of children and cps……shocking..disgusting…
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jus wundrin
May 19, 2022 1:35 am
The war is not going well for the Ukrainians. It will be interesting to hear the spin about why the US just wasted $40 billion dollars.
https://askeptic.substack.com/p/daily-report-from-the-ukraine-field-4e7?s=r
” When do Americans stand up and mean it.. “
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That will be the day. It’s so much easier to wait on Q.
Imho, Q may have recognized this fact and it is reasonable (after five years) that Q+ may figure the odds are that we’re way too passive to save, considering their risks
and our supply of sloth and popcorn.