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Rep. Victoria Spartz (R-Ind.)
FR ^ | May 12 | RandFan

Posted on 05/12/2022 9:13:08 PM PDT by RandFan

I just caught the end of an interview with her, and she spoke with a foreign accent.

She is from Ukraine.

I am not kidding. I was quite taken aback.

She might be a great Rep. but hearing a Congresswoman with foreign accent was kind of weird.

And if Dr. Oz wins next week you could have a Turk in the Senate.

You have to wonder where their loyalties truly lie......

What's going on ?


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To: RandFan

Don’t you think there’s a conflict of interest though when she’s voting on all this important legislation and aid for Ukraine?

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Imo, she’s prolly not as conflicted toward ukraine as quid pro joe; lindsey graham, no name, mitturd, pelosi or kerry


21 posted on 05/12/2022 11:19:23 PM PDT by thinden (buckle up)
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To: RandFan

What an embarrassing post. I’ll leave it at that.


22 posted on 05/13/2022 12:32:28 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: thinden; RandFan; All

Pelosi’s son, Romney’s son, Kerry’s son, AND Biden’s son (and his son’s business partners) are ALL employed at millions-per-year salaries by Ukrainian oil and gas companies!


23 posted on 05/13/2022 1:11:28 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: RandFan

She is my rep. Solid conservative. The Ukrainian thing bothers me too. 100% a major conflict of interest. Should have recused.

She is better than Oz though.... She is not a fake conservative. It is in her blood. She hates commies with the heat of 1000 suns.


24 posted on 05/13/2022 3:20:35 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: Aria; RandFan

I lived in Turkey for several years during the 1980s. Also have no problem with Turkish people.

During the time when Öz did his military service, there was mandatory national service, usually military conscription. This was also a time when the Turkish government sponsored many young people to get educated at Western universities, usually in the US or the UK. A lot of families with means also sent their children to the West for university education.

One big thing that was the case at that time was that for a male overseas to retain his Turkish citizenship, he had to come back to Turkey for his military service by a certain age (IIRC 30) or his passport would be cancelled (sort of a big deal if you live overseas).

So as a result, you’d see Turkish college kids go back to Turkey for military service if there was a chance they’d still be in school by the time they hit the magic age. You’d see children of guest workers who lived their entire lives in Germany go to Turkey to do their military service, etc. (In those days, Germany did not grant citizenship to the children for foreigners who were working in Germany, particularly Turkish guest workers)

The fact that Öz is a dual citizen, in of itself, is no big deal to me. He has citizenship, jus soli, in America, and jus sanguis in Turkey because of his parents. No harm, no foul so far.

The question for me comes with the fact that, under his circumstances, he felt compelled to travel to a country where he never lived to serve in their military.

I understand the children of German guest workers doing so: if they refused, they’d end up stateless...and being stateless is no fun I’m told.

But that’s not the case here. He was a US citizen jus soli. Did his parents pressure him to do so? Ok fine. Just say so.

But then when you add in that he votes in Turkish elections...I start to get the picture of split loyalty. And that’s where I have a problem. Not if he’s just a doctor, but if he wants to serve in Congress it becomes a big issue.


25 posted on 05/13/2022 3:35:43 AM PDT by markomalley (Directive 10-289 is in force)
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To: PGR88

“Many of our politicians are from Mexico, Somalia, Haiti, Ukraine, etc...”

Note the names of “journalists”...


26 posted on 05/13/2022 3:40:23 AM PDT by Does so (https//youtu.be/3PxEWB6W8ig ......Uke's Independence Day Parade. Anthem starts at 15:00)
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To: PGR88
Many of our politicians are from mexico, Somalia, Haiti, Ukraine, etc...

Öz is from Cleveland.

27 posted on 05/13/2022 4:08:19 AM PDT by markomalley (Directive 10-289 is in force)
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To: RandFan

So, are you OK with Italian accents? Jewish accents? Irish accents? I mean, you pretty much precluded anyone from New York ever going to Congress. (Wait... I was arguing AGAINST discriminating against people with accents.) Still: which accents are acceptable and which aren’t? Since when is a detectable accent a sign of foreign influence? I don’t trust him for other reasons, but Dr Oz was born in the U.S., just like Pres. Kennedy.


28 posted on 05/13/2022 5:58:57 AM PDT by dangus (I had some sympathies for some of Russia's positions... until they started a G-d-damned war.)
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To: markomalley

Now YOUR post against Oz is very interesting. A “foreign” accent isn’t troubling at all. But serving in a foreign nation’s military? That’s disturbing.


29 posted on 05/13/2022 6:01:24 AM PDT by dangus (I had some sympathies for some of Russia's positions... until they started a G-d-damned war.)
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To: dangus
But serving in a foreign nation’s military? That’s disturbing.

Even THAT may be explainable.

Shoot, my own grandfather (both in Wisconsin) joined the Canadian military.

Why? Because he was a teenager who wanted some adventure and he wanted to go to France and fight in WW1 and the policy of the US at the time was to stay out of the war. Sort of like the people going to the Ukraine and joining their foreign regiment.

There are many people who go join the French Foreign Legion. Why? Varying reasons depending on the person.

But why did Öz join the Turkish military? Has anybody asked him during this campaign?

The only thing I can see is in this 2017 interview (section starting at 14:14) with Turkish Radio and Television where he talks about being proud of this Turkish citizenship (not heritage, citizenship) and about how he served in the Turkish Military.

Somebody should just ask him about this, not attacking, but asking him to resolve why he went in the Turkish military, especially since he was born in the US.

30 posted on 05/13/2022 4:11:16 PM PDT by markomalley (Directive 10-289 is in force)
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