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FReeper Question: Have Any Of The Swing States Stolen From Trump In The Dead Of Night Made Any Meaningful Election Reform?
Vanity ^ | 5/4/22 | Me

Posted on 05/04/2022 4:40:29 AM PDT by Artemis Webb

I'm just wondering if for all our talk and planning and OBVIOUS superiority of numbers we're going to be robbed in the wee small hours yet again.


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Thanks in advance for any help.
1 posted on 05/04/2022 4:40:29 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: cotton1706

Cotton1706 if anybody here knows this kind of information I would bet on it being you.


2 posted on 05/04/2022 4:41:40 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Be kind to each other, unless the other guy is a dumbass.)
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To: Artemis Webb

I think the answer is “no,” none have. And all remain susceptible to court-order modification of ballot entry practices, regardless of what a legislator or secretary of state decrees.

PA
WI
GA
AZ
MI

It takes firing the election management in the cities. This happened in Florida, and made a huge difference.


3 posted on 05/04/2022 4:43:49 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Artemis Webb

There have been election reform changes in Georgia. We will get a read on how effective they were this Fall. There are also a lot of people really paying attention to election fraud in a way that wasn’t in play in 2020. People like True the Vote and Garland Favorito’s group.

I am of the belief that the Democrats elevated election cheating to a high art during the 35 years of the consent decree that ended in 2018. They cheat in multiple ways. The law changes combined with the increased scrutiny will *hopefully* knock the cheating down an order of magnitude.

I am crossing my fingers.


4 posted on 05/04/2022 4:45:50 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Artemis Webb

Wisconsin has.. Court have ruled most of their monkey business illegal including Zuckerberg money

Pa won’t. The pa Supreme Court was an active participant in the steal and still had a Democrat governor who will veto anything… so between those two things not likely to see any real reform here.

Not sure about GA, AZ and MI.


5 posted on 05/04/2022 4:46:32 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Artemis Webb
Disinformation.

--DSG

6 posted on 05/04/2022 4:47:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Artemis Webb
The DGB is watching,


7 posted on 05/04/2022 4:48:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Artemis Webb

This will be a watched election. The machines will be checked and ballots will be contested and watched. If they can’t use mail ins then it will make it hard. The landslide in 2024 will be bigger than 2020.


8 posted on 05/04/2022 4:49:17 AM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: HamiltonJay

Arizona has made none
zippo
nada
and the same treasonous criminal traitors are still in office


9 posted on 05/04/2022 4:49:21 AM PDT by SisterK (recognize and resist tyranny)
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To: Artemis Webb
It doesn't really matter.In January of last year SCOTUS made it clear to the world...and to Rat Party Headquarters...that when it comes to Presidential elections there *are* no rules.In the future it will be routine for "water main breaks" to occur in counting rooms...for truckloads of ballots to appear at counting rooms at 3AM on Wednesday morning...and for mysterious people to leave nursing homes with armloads of ballots.

Add to that the continued Rat Party demand that culling...reviewing...voter rolls periodically (to find people who have died or moved) is racist and it's clear that there will never again be a Presidential election that's within a hundred light years of honest.

10 posted on 05/04/2022 4:53:15 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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To: Artemis Webb

Doubtful. The thing is, if I thought for a moment that the shtbird in office won fair and square I’d accept it, lower my head and move along. Not the case, hell, Ray Charles could see that. Our election process is now meaningless and we truly don’t make a difference.


11 posted on 05/04/2022 4:55:12 AM PDT by Bigbrown
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To: Cboldt; Artemis Webb

To me, the issue is not that there aren’t laws on the books that need to be added in.

Granted, the Leftists did an all out legal assault on voting laws and regulations in the year leading up to the 2020 election, but...even where there WERE specific laws on the books (such as laws about signature matching and ballot harvesting) they were simply ignored.

Particularly with signature matching. They were flat out ignored. We know they were ignored. They admitted they were ignored. And yet the votes are not invalidated, and the results still stand.

That indicates a far more insidious, and dangerous rot in our Republic. When laws on the books are simply broken with brazen impunity, and not only is not a finger lifted, when they actually have come up in front of a court, they are ignored and dismissed, which is worse.


12 posted on 05/04/2022 4:59:49 AM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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To: Artemis Webb

Of course not.

Next question.


13 posted on 05/04/2022 5:01:54 AM PDT by sauropod ("We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they are elected. Don’t you?" Why? "It saves time.”)
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To: rlmorel
-- When laws on the books are simply broken with brazen impunity, and not only is not a finger lifted, when they actually have come up in front of a court, they are ignored and dismissed, which is worse. --

There are many "laws" that have no statutory remedy. The laws that direct how candidates will be admitted to the ballot, how ballots are distributed, how results are canvassed, basically "how to do this task" laws are merely suggestions. There is no consequence for failure to follow the suggestion except in immediate sense where a person is excluded from a ballot then gets back on.

Then there is the body of judge-made law which has any remedy the court chooses, e.g., the consent decree against the GOP, or in the Bush v. Gore cases, whatever process the court picks (which is always claimed to be neutral and fair).

As you point out, all sorts of integrity protection measures can be skipped, and this is perfectly legal at the end - the results stand, and the powers that be ridicule those who hold "election integrity" to be an oxymoron.

Profiles in pusillanimity.

14 posted on 05/04/2022 5:14:23 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Artemis Webb
It will survive but not necessarily in the form that we've
had for the past years. Take a look at the past and how this
country has evolved. Start with when Columbus sailed the
ocean blue and the changes made thru the history until now.

It is ever evolving be it for good or bad. People change.

1492 ............ 2022
A little over 5 centuries
Walk.... Horse.... Paddle
to
Mechanical - Nuclear
Space travel - Moon Walk

15 posted on 05/04/2022 5:15:28 AM PDT by deport
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To: Artemis Webb

If they haven’t repealed RCV, if it’s in use, and gotten rid of RCV-enabled voting machines, then the answer is no.

Because with those in place, even if every voter is a legal voter, Deep State can still steal elections.


16 posted on 05/04/2022 5:22:01 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: Artemis Webb

Read all replies above. Seems clear that the only course of action is to out cheat ‘‘em and to do so with moral certainty. Rules have changed They’re are none. Our team can print and deliver. Our team can harvest and deliver. Our team can find ballots and count them. To do otherwise —. get beat again by cheaters while we play by old rules— would be wrong and stupid.


17 posted on 05/04/2022 5:24:12 AM PDT by 2big2fail (.)
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To: Artemis Webb
Hell no there hasn't been anything changed!

Why do you think?

Because the same RINO traitors who gave to the Steal to the Dems on a platter are STILL THERE.

The primaries this summer are our first chance for pay back.

And if the primaries last night were any indication of what's coming, then it's not the Mid-Terms that Democrats have to fear. It's the republican primaries. If their embedded RINO spies are ousted, the Democrats won't be able to steal anything in 2024.

The press is scared now. J D Vance won with 32% and their fake polling made it look like it was a dead heat. Look for stories now about how the "crazies" are taking over the GOP.

18 posted on 05/04/2022 5:26:25 AM PDT by HandBasketHell
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To: Cboldt
"Profiles in Pusillanimity"

There should be a book.

19 posted on 05/04/2022 5:26:28 AM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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To: HamiltonJay

Wisconsin has.. Court have ruled most of their monkey business illegal including Zuckerberg money

Changes as in laws, not court cases.

No changes have actually been made - drop boxes are still in, for one. Nothing has been done to stop the same cheating methods used in Dane and Milwaukee counties. Dems will still block GOP observers and count the ballots.


20 posted on 05/04/2022 5:30:04 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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