Maybe I’ll try this. 
Posted on 04/23/2022 7:10:18 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
Your patience and civility are truly amazing. Sadly, there is no reasoning with the ideologically possessed. I ran out of patience a good while back, so my hat is off to you.
Sorry to repeat myself, but here’s what I posted back in February, for anyone wondering about this blood clot business (the True Believers of the Believe Anything crowd will not be swayed by facts or reason, of course):
Blood clots cannot form in the same way after death as they do before death. Blood clots formed in a living person adhere to the vessel walls, and are qualitatively and visibly different from postmortem “clots”. After death, blood usually, but not always, begins to coagulate after a few hours and remains so for about two days, then breaks down and liquifies. The “clots” that form after death are not stuck to the blood vessel walls (as antemortem clots are) — that’s why he was able to remove the “clot” shown in the video as he did.
About postmortem “chicken fat clots”:
“A slowly formed postmortem blood clot, composed mainly of white blood cells that settle to dependent parts of the vasculature. Chicken fat clots are yellow, rubbery, and don’t adhere to vessel walls; the cells seen in such clots are heterogeneous with abundant neutrophils, few RBCs and fibrin. They may occur in fulminant bacterial endocarditis.
(Segen’s Medical Dictionary)
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/chicken+fat+clot
“A postmortem clot (E-Fig. 1-5) can be distinguished from an antemortem thrombus by its smooth shiny surface and lack of lamination or attachment to the endothelial surface of the vessel. However, depending on the erythrocyte sedimentation rate, a postmortem clot can organize within a vessel just as within a test tube, with erythrocytes at the bottom separated by a “buffy coat” of leukocytes from the serum at the top. The resemblance of clotted serum to avian adipose tissue has garnered the name of “chicken fat clot” for this postmortem clot that is often seen in horses because of their high erythrocyte sedimentation rate. Inflammation can accelerate the sedimentation rate. Anticoagulants or hereditary coagulopathies can delay or prevent postmortem clotting of blood.”
Link:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/nursing-and-health-professions/livor-mortis
Also here:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18243759/
Of course those who want to believe this guy and Steve Kirsch will believe it anyway.
Original post: https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4038551/posts?page=21#21
Here’s wishing you a lovely and Blessed day today.
Maybe I’ll try this.
“My medical insurance company sometimes requires me to see my primary embalmer first and get a referral before going to see a specialist embalmer.”
ROTFLOL!
Thank you for your kindness.
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled My offer to share videos and blood clot tissue samples from multiple embalmers with the CDC and FDA, gas_dr wrote: |
You have just confirmed exactly what your are. You stopped reading, made an assumption and hurled insults. While you choose to remain uneducable, you could at least give civility a whirl. |
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You lie about Covid and the 'vaccines', lure FReepers into harms way, and then complain about others' civility. That's your unctious posturing that you use to portray yourself as moral. Isn't there a FReeper out there you 'need' to confuse into getting the toxic gene therapy Covid 'vaccine' right now?
What a mindless Robot. This is not about if Trump is good overall or not. This is about him pushing to create an experimental vaccine in a way that bypassed all safety protocols. Massively “Encouraging” people to take it. And never admitting that it does not work or that people are dying and being maimed by it.
No matter how good or bad Trump is overall this was and is one of his darkest moments.
Considering you “stop reading” it is pretty funny that you don’t know my position on the vaccines that was well detailed in that which you — again — “stopped reading” by your own admission
You seem to be infatuated with the word unctuous. It turns is in your more visceral responses. So it seems based on understanding your tones and responses that are doubling down on anger and insult. Stating things that are demonstrably untrue but that you do not have discernment to see.
So, in light of the fact that you put on full display exactly your thought process and your lack of intellectual curiosity, you are free to continue to insult me and denigrate me, but your arrows and barbs are worthless as it is clear that you will never look at something or someone that disagrees with you.
Perhaps, again, you should consider enjoying the beauty of the day wherever you are, away from the keyboard and reflecting on if the kind or person you are is aligned with the kind of person you thi k you are.
blah blah blah....go prey on the unsuspecting....
Ok, but don’t doctors have to go through years and years of learning and training? One would think they’d know a thing or two beyond layman terms of human anatomy, before and preceding death? To tell me a doctor can’t tell me what happens to the human body post mortem is akin to telling me a rancher doesn’t know how to butcher a steer... only the butcher knows how to butcher a steer?
I think I’ve seen two of the most ignorant replies I’ve ever seen on FR to your post. Good for you Doc!!!
I have no problem criticizing Trump’s poor decisions. But you’re conflating two separate vax issues each having completing different circumstances.
The drive to facilitate remedies for the SARS outbreak was exceptional. The vax was just one of many aspects. No doubt you’re aware of the others that included the innovative and rapid production of ventilators, the national & worldwide distribution of ventilators and related resources, the mobilization of medical facilities, etc.
The Rats exploited the vax. The country was unfortunately mesmerized and compliant.
The 2nd issue concerns Trump’s inadequate recognition of the vax injuries and mandates once he was out of office. I believe his rhetoric was/is politically calculated given the irrational vax divide that still exists in every possible corner. Although very disappointed, I cautiously give weight to the occasionally expressed caveat where Trump states individuals should have a choice. I tend to think he’s pandering to the anti-forced-vax crowd, but otherwise believes the vax is a good thing.
>> Not a doc, but wouldn’t the blood clot after the heart stops beating?
>> I am a doc, and the answer is a resounding YES.
So only those that survive experience life-threatening clots... /s
Thanks. It’s amazing that they are proud of it! What else is interesting is the post that quotes we know who we can’t trust — doctors, nurses, ambulance drivers, friends and families.
It is eerily cultish as any cult demands absolute allegiance to the dogma they present and isolate you from people who love and care (friends snd family)
I just wonder what flavor of Kool Aid she will serve her disciples when her story falls apart.
As such, I see the “anti” side as having lost a great deal of credibility over time as more and more absurd assertions are made, claims equally as absurd as some made by Fauci and Walensky. Steve Kirsch bankrolled Al Gore’s Florida efforts. He has for years been a noisemaker about “man-made climate change” which he dubbed the greatest threat to humanity, and he supported Obama in 2008 (also wrote an op-Ed saying Obama needed to stop playing nice with the GOP). As such he’s a suspect source. I’m not a doctor, but I know blood congeals and coagulates rapidly after death. I am not aware of any large number of undertakers publicly discussing these claims about unheard-of clots in corpses, just a few that are consistently highlighted and given a platform by…Steve Kirsch. So the assertion, of which I am skeptical on its face, becomes further questionable due to association with a man I consider at this point to be a charlatan. That’s why I highlighted his little assure about Alzheimer’s — he mixed claims that could possibly have merit with one that he can’t possibly be making with any rational basis, possibly impacting the credibility of everything else he said.
Ransomnote, you really need to back off and reassess your position. Without a doubt, gas_dr has been for vaccine choice. He’s been a proponent for the vaccines, but he also took it and has done well. You didn’t, and have done well. Both sides are understandable.
Stop personally attacking him. That is the stuff that gets you banned, and all that takes is a note to Jim Robinson.
Cease and desist.
I’ve been personally attacked for years now - check the keywords in the threads I post that say “ransomnut” “FRheldforransom” “GetHelp” etc. in addition to be accused of being a dangerous person, anti-vaxxer, incoherent, irrational etc.
I believe there is a geniune ethical offense in claiming to be a doctor and urging people to get vaccinated on the basis of that claim while hiding behind complete anonymity. Legitimate doctors dispensing legitimate advice are public persons whose records can be researched, employers checked etc.
I was appalled that Gas_dr urged someone who had failed to get any help from hospitals and her own doctor to keep going back to them, to check into the hospital even though she called in advance and the hospital said she would receive no real treatment. But gas_dr begged her, as did another FR ‘doctor’ utilizing unsubstantiated medical credentials to ‘let them help you.’ We heard later from the victim’s daughter that she went to the hospital and never received any treatment, and died.
If gas_dr wants to use claims of his medical credentials to direct FReepers into the path of an oncoming train, let him post his identifying information and let others evaluate him as they do all legitimate doctors.
gas_dr cannot make the claim that I am harming his medical reputation because he has given no evidence or identifying information that my information can ‘ruin’.
Please write your note to Jim Robinson and not to me.
Should we be appalled you didn't help her, earlier, as she was following (very, very poorly) the protocol you were pushing?
Even the FLCCC says the vaccine is a reasonable option.
Ethical offense you may take is still not a reason to personally attack someone.
I’m not personally attacking him. I take issue with his fake, potentially dangerous medical advice and his apparent insistence that he be afforded all the trust and a respect a reputable doctor has, without actually demonstrating even a week’s worth of first aid classes. He doesn’t know the medical history of the people to whom he dispenses medical advice to on FR anonymously. When/if he’s wrong, he escapes all liability a legitimate doctor would incur.
Please address your concerns to Jim Robinson.
Shouldn’t you address your concerns with Gas_dr with Jim, too?
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