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To: jmaroneps37
Basically fought Finland to a stalemate in '39.

Had a dust-up with the Japanese along the Manvhurian border in 1937, which the Soviets won.

6 posted on 04/09/2022 9:50:54 AM PDT by Campion (All we are saying is give peace a chance.)
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To: Campion

One block. I would have preferred an aerial drone to see the extent of the damage but this close-up is pretty good. Wonder how the dead bodies disappeared.


7 posted on 04/09/2022 9:54:09 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; TalBlack; ..

Ukraine ping


[Had a dust-up with the Japanese along the Manvhurian border in 1937, which the Soviets won.]

This was trumpeted as a great victory and built up into the first evidence of Russian supermen (in much the same way as others built up the German supermen of the Heer in the post-war era) of WWII. Then in the post-Cold War era, Soviet archives were cracked open for a few years (until Putin slammed them shut), and the truth emerged - that the Soviets had scratched out a victory against a Japanese force inferior in numbers (equipment and men) and technology, while sustaining higher casualties than the Japanese, while on defense (!).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol#Soviet_assessment
[Following the battle, the Soviets generally found the results unsatisfactory, despite their victory. Though the Soviet forces in the Far East in 1939 were not plagued by fundamental issues to the same extent as those in Europe during the 1941 campaigns, their generals were still unimpressed by their army’s performance. As noted by Pyotr Grigorenko, the Red Army went in with a very large advantage in technology, numbers, and firepower, yet still suffered huge losses, which he blamed on poor leadership.[29]

Although their victory and the subsequent negotiation of the Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact secured the Far East for the duration of the Soviet-German War, the Red Army always remained cautious about the possibility of another, larger Japanese incursion as late as early 1944. In December 1943, when the American military mission proposed a logistics base be set up east of Lake Baikal, the Red Army authorities were according to Coox “shocked by the idea and literally turned white”.[73] Due to this caution, the Red Army kept a large force in the Far East even during the bleakest days of the war in Europe. For example, on July 1, 1942, Soviet forces in the Far East consisted of 1,446,012 troops, 11,759 artillery pieces, 2,589 tanks and self-propelled guns, and 3,178 combat aircraft.[74] Despite this, the Soviet operations chief of the Far Eastern Front, General A. K. Kazakovtsev, was not confident in his army group’s ability to stop an invasion if the Japanese committed to it (at least in 1941–1942), commenting: “If the Japanese enter the war on Hitler’s side ... our cause is hopeless.”[75] ]


11 posted on 04/09/2022 10:35:53 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Campion

Lost badly to the Chinese in 1969 during the battle along the Amour River in Siberia.


23 posted on 04/09/2022 11:50:46 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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