[Cletus.D.Yokel]

In the time between it was apparent that JFK could not perform the duties of POTUS and the announcement of his death, the 25th Amendment was set in motion.

Even modern Presidents use the 25th-A when they are going into surgery and appoint VPOTUS as interim POTUS.

It is a fairytale that the VPOTUS could start 25th-A proceedings an his/her own with a living, breathing POTUS still in that office.
Even with dementia, a medical determination must be made to trigger 25A.
Who initiates such a medical review?
Why the POTUS does.

[WildHighlander57]

Cletus.D.Yokel wrote:

“
In the time between it was apparent that JFK could not perform the duties of POTUS and the announcement of his death, the 25th Amendment was set in motion.

Even modern Presidents use the 25th-A when they are going into surgery and appoint VPOTUS as interim POTUS.

It is a fairytale that the VPOTUS could start 25th-A proceedings an his/her own with a living, breathing POTUS still in that office.
Even with dementia, a medical determination must be made to trigger 25A.
Who initiates such a medical review?
Why the POTUS does”

You are correct.

IIRC, the Dems floated the idea of using the 25-A to oust PDJT; they were twisting the Constitution into something it wasn’t.

[WildHighlander57]

Cletus, I thought of something else:

Being that dementia isn’t temporary, and the 25A only provides for a temporary solution which is initiated by the POTUS, what constitutional remedy exists for the situation where a president gets increasingly worse dementia.... and isn’t capable of initiating the 25A?

Joe is getting near that condition (if not already there).

[stylin19a]

It is a fairytale that the VPOTUS could start 25th-A proceedings an his/her own with a living, breathing POTUS still in that office.

I'm thinking the VP could start the ball rolling...might be political suicide to do it. Better have someone else to do it and bring the VP in.

25-A Section 4 doesn't say anything about a medical determination must be made to trigger 25A

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.