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1 posted on 03/22/2022 8:44:11 AM PDT by bitt
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2 posted on 03/22/2022 8:44:57 AM PDT by bitt ( <img src=' 'width=50%> )
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This entire thing is being orchestrated by China. The United States is China’s proxy. They would like nothing more than to weaken both nations...especially Putin. China has promised the United States something (not sure yet) if they continue this provocation. And they’ve threatened something IF we don’t.


3 posted on 03/22/2022 8:47:24 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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I fear the Neocons have taken over the White House.

please...


4 posted on 03/22/2022 8:49:33 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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Whoever is doing this, my theory of them using Ukraine as a flaming bag of dog poop for Putin to step on, still fits.

7 posted on 03/22/2022 9:13:15 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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Shades of April Glaspie triggering Iraq to invade Kuwait.


8 posted on 03/22/2022 9:14:15 AM PDT by Cboldt
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My view from way down here at average schmuck level sees a couple of different threats. On one hand there is China, on the other hand there is the global elite. I think there two have teamed up in a marriage of convenience because China wants tech, trade, and power, and globalists want money and are singularly prone to mission creep and lying to themselves.

Putin was lured by China, just like the global elite was. I look at it this way, China has motive (they want power and resources), the global elite doesn’t have nearly as strong of a motive because nobody is going to attack Russia, so they don’t need Ukraine as a staging point. The sanctions they are piling on Russia harm their bottom line. The only one that comes out ahead is China.

You can’t really say “look what you made me do” to the West, for leaving the NATO door open to Ukraine, because as we see right now in NATO’s inaction regarding non-member Ukraine, NATO is defensive, not offensive. It is China that is expansionist (just ask India) and that went to the trouble to have extensive meetings with Russia to set all this up and to apparently give them the go-ahead to invade Ukraine after the Winter Olympics.


10 posted on 03/22/2022 10:11:23 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Hope for the best, prepare for the worst)
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After they successfully murder 1/3 of the global population with the coming WWIII, the survivors have this to look forward to:




11 posted on 03/22/2022 10:13:41 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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LATER EXCERPT:

“Putin, I believe, was lured into his invasion knowing his chief complaint has been the constant eastward movement of NATO. That does not make him a victim. There are no good guys. Both sides fight for their own self-interest precisely as in economics – i.e. Adam Smith’s Invisible Hand. What he did not expect was this onslaught of attacks against all Russians and the sanctions that have effectively cut off Russia from the West. This is intended to put so much pressure on Russia that they storm the Kremlin and behead him or some drastic event of that nature. But now, the hatred is against all Russians as a race. This is the dream of Ukrainian Nazis.”

FLASHBACK:

Biden suggests Russia may not be heavily punished for a ‘minor incursion’ into Ukraine, prompting White House scramble to clarify

Business Insider | Bill Bostock | Jan 20, 2022

President Joe Biden appeared to suggest the US may not heavily punish Russia if it conducts a “minor incursion” into Ukraine, prompting the White House to swiftly clarify his remarks.

Speaking to reporters Wednesday, Biden said that he predicts President Vladimir Putin will invade Ukraine and that NATO needs to be in agreement on a response.

“I think what you’re going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades, and it depends on what it does,” Biden said.

“It’s one thing if it’s a minor incursion and we [NATO] end up having to fight about what to do and not to do.”

(…)


12 posted on 03/22/2022 10:15:08 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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I’m willing to bet that this is really why Russia was lured into this particular trap.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/beyond-evergrande-chinas-property-market-faces-a-5-trillion-reckoning


14 posted on 03/22/2022 10:52:05 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Hope for the best, prepare for the worst)
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Don’t you mean NeoLIBS!?!?!


16 posted on 03/22/2022 11:10:43 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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"to make sure Putin would not take it that they were advocating violating the Belgrade Agreement where Ukraine was to remains neutral. "

What's that ?
17 posted on 03/22/2022 11:28:00 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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Russian Stealth Sub can surface just miles offshow and launch against 160 targets in a matter of minutes.

I don't think they surface to launch.

21 posted on 03/22/2022 2:04:59 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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