Posted on 03/21/2022 12:02:44 PM PDT by standing man
VANITY I am a long time lurker and occasional poster. I consider Free Republic to be one of the most informative sites available, but I find myself confused with the direction of commentary regarding Russia and the Ukriane. The media, the democrats, George Soros,the UN, the World economic forum. ALL either have LIED to us continually for the last four years or are actively involved in planning the destruction of our nation. At the Risk of being called a putinista or putard I have to ask the question. Why do we accept as fact the narrative that we are being fed by the msm? This link is not the hill I am willing to die on but it does present an alternative point of view worth considering https://burningbright.substack.com Stand Tall Brad
YOU may not WANT it, but the end result of your argument means you (and I, and everyone else) WILL get it.
"***No it isn’t. The parallels are striking."
Only if you swallow pro-WW3 globalist media lies.
"***He sure is pushin’ hard against it, threatening NATO and all those former soviet slave states."
NATO shouldn't exist anymore. It was relevant until the Soviet Union fell and then it should've been deactivated 30 years ago. Why does this international military bureaucracy still exist ?
"***How is [presumably] Zelenskyy begging for nuke holocaust? This is hyperbole of the highest order."
Have you heard anything from this nutjob ? He's begging us to support his corrupt nation (a Soros puppet !) intercede even if it means triggering a nuclear war. Every death in Ukraine is on his hands (and that of his puppetmaster). Utterly and completely preventable.
"***shouldn’t? More hyperbole. Look at that Budapest Agreement where we basically not only say it SHOULD exist but we ASSURE its borders, sovereignty, its existence."
Yup, I said shouldn't. And why is it that Ukraine's boundaries (which were fixed by the Soviets and not by any pre-Soviet historical means, a la the Baltics) are sacrosanct, yet the American borders, flooded in by millions of illegals, are NOT ? How 'bout we do something about something that is imperative and relevant to us as a nation instead of a pseudo-nation on another effing continent ?
"***Same exact argument Hitler used when he was pushing Europe around."
One could say Hitler had the right to try to pursue restoring the pre-WW1 German Empire boundaries, but we both know he wanted far more that did not belong to Germany at any time in the past. When Putin invades France so his Russian soldiers can march in the shade of the trees along the Champs-Élysées, you can declare yourself the winner of this argument.
"Who the hell cares what things were like under their former empire? You gonna go out of your way to restore the British Empire? The Aztec Empire? The Roman Empire? It’s a gigantic pile of bullshiite."
Because those were the true Russian boundaries. The discussion here was trying to figure out Putin's goal. Restoring its original boundaries (or most of it) has been his apparent goal. As for the British Empire, it's actual boundaries really never left the British Isles (save for a few times it tried with bits of France). The rest of the world under its aegis was never really "Britain", even if it was considered part of its empire. You may have been a British subject living in India, but Indians were never British. Conversely, Eastern Ukraine is largely Russian.
"***He’s just a standard Russian Empirialist, like Peter or Catherine or Stalin or Lenin or whom-the-frack-ever."
Imperialist, not "Empirialist." He's an authoritarian, to be sure. He wants a strong Russia. He loves his country. He deplores today's sick, degenerate, and corrupt Western values (ironically, which were undermined by the Soviets to destabilize and destroy Western Europe and the U.S., which has succeeded in the long run). I wish we had leaders in these places who loved their nations and didn't regard patriotism and nationalism as an epithet. Globalism, conversely, is an unheralded failure and destructive evil, why those forces of darkness are pushing so hard to destroy Putin and Russia.
That’s an understatement. We’ve permanently traumatized this generation. Hide them under useless masks for years, give them poisonous injections that who knows what it will do to them in the long term (I think we’re going to see hundreds of thousands, if not millions, dying from the effects of this fictional “vaccine”, if we haven’t already), the worship of Sodomy and Trannyism in schools, removal of Christian values, degenerate political and social and private sector leaders, threats of WW3. No truth to be found openly. It’s a very dark and evil place today. That’s why Trump had to be gotten rid of, he got in the way of the ultimate destruction of the nation.
Copy that post but get rid of the Sheldon.
It’s a good one to explain situations.
Why don’t you just go there yourself ? If we were to pay you to go to Ukraine, that would imply we support that corrupt regime that wants to trigger WW3. Now since you think Putin is the be-all and end-all of evil, stop being a keyboard commando, use your money to buy a ticket to “KEEV”, and show us all how it’s done. Take out a bunch of Roooskies and maybe George Soros will pin a medal on you for helping save his puppet country and puppet regime. That and tree fiddy won’t get you a small, plain coffee at Starbucks, Rambo.
Oh my gosh.
Don’t forget to post here on FR once in a while, so we can track you, ya freak.
I am with you buddy.
The Lord has blessed me and I do my best.
You know I used to be there.
Now in the Charlotte region. I have to help now. It is all good. I am best off in this order.
Our conversation has shifted greatly since 2005.
We are in dangerous times. Protect the young ones.
I do pray for Nashville.
He should do some research before going over. The foreign volunteers ain’t being treated very nice by the Ukrainians (and ain’t being armed well, either - not even enough bullets to shoot up a Coca-Cola vending machine).
Well, you did have those American dumbasses who went over to Spain to fight on the wrong side (for the Communists, who were slaughtering Christians en masse). Of course, the elites then hated Franco just like they did Putin (and Franco saved Spain, and now the descendants of the Soviet Spaniards he defeated are working hard to destroy and split the country today). Que sera sera.
troll. Ignore.
I think back 20 years ago... boy, that Shrub really had us rolled. Another globalist who kept feeding the war machine to keep us in perpetual conflict to the tune of trillions and trillions. And for what ? Are we better off ? Are they ? This country is now deep in the septic tank, because it’s already been flushed down the toilet. Both parties helped put us there. God will not be mocked, and this is the result of mocking Him and trashing His timeless values and morals. Until we get back to Him, this is all just wasted effort.
I know what is going on there but unable to say much.
39th ABW is still open, You know.
One thing I will say something about is little posters who have never even done a dorm guard with their hair shaved off.
They cannot do it.
Kevmo:”***Your claim is that my side agrees with me. I KNOW that I do NOT want WW3. QED, my side does not want WW3.”
FM:YOU may not WANT it, but the end result of your argument means you (and I, and everyone else) WILL get it.
***Now you’re backtracking off the claim that I want it. Smart move. But it shows you were wrong all along, and we’ll see what else you’ve been wrong about.
KM:”***No it isn’t. The parallels are striking.”
FM:Only if you swallow pro-WW3 globalist media lies.
***Now back to your hyperbolic bullshiite. I KNEW it was too good to last. The Reagan admin applied the lessons of preWW2 and would not appease Russia, and we won the cold war as a result. This was well before any of this stuff ever happened. But for you libtards, history begins when you wake up in the morning.
KM:”***He sure is pushin’ hard against it, threatening NATO and all those former soviet slave states.”
FM:NATO shouldn’t exist anymore.
***It’s been doing pretty good deterring your boyfriend Pootypoot.
It was relevant until the Soviet Union fell and then it should’ve been deactivated 30 years ago.
***That’s 2 shoulds you’ve posted in a row, without any support other than you feeeelz like it ougtta be that way.
Why does this international military bureaucracy still exist ?
***To look out for the mutual defense of its members, duhh. None of them have been invaded by pootypoot the bully, and the one who dilly-dallied in their MAP was the one that got invaded. Very relevant.
KM:”***How is [presumably] Zelenskyy begging for nuke holocaust? This is hyperbole of the highest order.”
FM:Have you heard anything from this nutjob ? He’s begging us to support his corrupt nation (a Soros puppet !) intercede even if it means triggering a nuclear war.
***Ho hum, yawn. I say you need to support your assertion so you reiterate your assertion. You would argue with an answering machine.
Every death in Ukraine is on his hands (and that of his puppetmaster). Utterly and completely preventable.
***More of that feeelz stuff. You’re boring.
KM:”***shouldn’t? More hyperbole. Look at that Budapest Agreement where we basically not only say it SHOULD exist but we ASSURE its borders, sovereignty, its existence.”
FM:Yup, I said shouldn’t.
***There you go again. Just reasserting your assertion. Gawd yer boring.
And why is it that Ukraine’s boundaries (which were fixed by the Soviets and not by any pre-Soviet historical means, a la the Baltics) are sacrosanct, yet the American borders,
***Ahh, here we go with the standard red herring of US immigration policy. Take it up on an immigration thread. Otherwise, take a freeping writing class.
flooded in by millions of illegals, are NOT ? How ‘bout we do something about something that is imperative and relevant to us as a nation instead of a pseudo-nation on another effing continent ?
***Helping the Ukes is the right thing to do. Sealing our own borders is the right thing to do. You’re arguing we should do the wrong thing in one area but do the right thing in the one area that we all know congress and rinos and parade jumpers and assistant democraps and GOPes will not lift a finger. That makes you kinda despicable.
KM:”***Same exact argument Hitler used when he was pushing Europe around.”
FM:One could say Hitler had the right to try to pursue restoring the pre-WW1 German Empire boundaries,
***Well at least you are open about supporting NAZI policy on top of Putin’s empirialist fascist policy.
but we both know he wanted far more that did not belong to Germany at any time in the past.
***You already gave your game away, pantywaist appeaser.
When Putin invades France so his Russian soldiers can march in the shade of the trees along the Champs-Élysées, you can declare yourself the winner of this argument.
***Hyperbolic bullshiite. When Putin is lookin’ at a nuke uke plume over his favorite city, you can answer for your lack of caring for all those casualties in your haste to throw Ukraine under the nuke bus.
KM:”Who the hell cares what things were like under their former empire? You gonna go out of your way to restore the British Empire? The Aztec Empire? The Roman Empire? It’s a gigantic pile of bullshiite.”
FM:Because those were the true Russian boundaries.
***There you go again, just reasserting your assertion. You must bore your wife to tears.
The discussion here was trying to figure out Putin’s goal.
***You lost the bead on any point you had long ago.
Restoring its original boundaries (or most of it) has been his apparent goal.
***You trust him but you make fun of those who trust anyone else. What a whackadoodle sociopath you have become.
As for the British Empire, it’s actual boundaries really never left the British Isles (save for a few times it tried with bits of France). The rest of the world under its aegis was never really “Britain”, even if it was considered part of its empire.
***MEGO: Mine Eyes Glaze Over.
You may have been a British subject living in India, but Indians were never British. Conversely, Eastern Ukraine is largely Russian.
***Conversely? Oh, yikes, I lost track of whatever you were trying to say. You meandered so much in your nuanced point that you never really said anything at all, other than fall back on those old National Socialist arguments.
KM:”***He’s just a standard Russian Empirialist, like Peter or Catherine or Stalin or Lenin or whom-the-frack-ever.”
FM: Imperialist, not “Empirialist.”
***Oh shiite, now you’re going into semantics. FR is doomed. Doomed, I tell you.
He’s an authoritarian, to be sure. He wants a strong Russia. He loves his country. He deplores today’s sick, degenerate, and corrupt Western values
***Do you really think anyone cares what you think of Putin? Could you kiss his ass any deeper? Maybe add more tongue?
(ironically, which were undermined by the Soviets to destabilize and destroy Western Europe and the U.S., which has succeeded in the long run).
***Insert paranthetical sentence to prove you need to take a writing class.
I wish we had leaders in these places who loved their nations and didn’t regard patriotism and nationalism as an epithet.
***Yawn. Literally, I had to yawn. Gawd yer boring.
Globalism, conversely, is an unheralded failure and destructive evil,
***Straw argument. I don’t GAF about globalism.
why those forces of darkness are pushing so hard to destroy Putin and Russia.
***Oh, cool, maybe they will destroy Puton because he deserves it. I sure hope we’re done here because you are incredibly boring.
It is late. I will come back to it.
Sheldon can go to Ukraine and put his helmet on.
(Don’t forget a postcard to Brandon)
Why don’t you just go there yourself ?
***Because I can’t afford it.
If we were to pay you to go to Ukraine, that would imply we support that corrupt regime that wants to trigger WW3.
***Oh, I figured it would be because you wanted to test my mettle. Like those guys who come to America and complain about it, pretending “their country” is better. Then why the hell don’t you go back, @$$#0/e? Sometimes such people are worth opening up a GoFundMe for a 1way ticket back.
Now since you think Putin is the be-all and end-all of evil, stop being a keyboard commando, use your money to buy a ticket to “KEEV”,
***I would much prefer to use YOUR money.
and show us all how it’s done. Take out a bunch of Roooskies and maybe George Soros will pin a medal on you for helping save his puppet country and puppet regime.
***I sometimes where all this Soros stuff comes from but I’m certain your answer would bore the socks off me, so never mind.
That and tree fiddy won’t get you a small, plain coffee at Starbucks, Rambo.
***You’re just too much of a wuss to send me there. That fits. A wuss here, a wuss appeaser over Pootypoot, you’re even an appeaser of Hitler after he’s responsible for tens of millions of deaths. You’re quite the sociopath wuss.
Well, Rambo, I could've spared you typing had you led with this. I'm so sorry that I don't support the war you want but deny that you do. Toodles.
Keyboard Kommando Kevmo !
P.S. Did you really harass and torment elderly Christian ladies online ? That's not very nice.
That’s a purty song.
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