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To: Radix

“I am in accord that there are shady things likely going on, but the idea that Doctors are killing Patients or letting them die by withholding interventions is simply something that I cannot reconcile, at all. “
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Not by withholding interventions, but by applying mandated (and financially beneficial) protocols for a particular patient populations.

Just last week, at a major teaching institution, the hospital insisted that my friend’s boy of ~10 yo, with a congenital heart condition, get vaxxed. There was a couple of issues, but the child is going to surgery in 2 weeks. The hospital was labeling the patient care as ‘AMA’ and potentially siccing the authorities on them.

This week, I had a receptionist/nurse aid at my ob/gyn insist that I be masked in the waiting room. It was scantly populated, with >20 ft between patients. I said I can’t, medical condition —it gives me a blazing headache. And I already had the ‘rona. “No! I must! It is for my health!” Um no, I won’t. I had to wait in the car until they called me in.

I have more examples. It’s brainwashing, clear and simple.


1,732 posted on 03/24/2022 6:50:10 AM PDT by smileyface ("The illuminati's whole philosophy demands the use, abuse, sacrifice and consumption of children.")
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To: smileyface
I completely understand what you are saying.

Over the years I have learned that most ICU Nurses are extremely protective of their Patients. I have seen those Nurses confront Physicians when they felt that an order or medication dose was inappropriate. I am talking confrontation. Nurses will go directly to the Attending and bitch like crazy if something is felt to be out of whack.

I once had a Physician express that an Arterial Blood Gas was ‘OK.’ I did not even have to say anything at all because several of the Nurses freaked out. It was so obviously a bad gas and inaction was entirely not acceptable.

I had one Doctor write an order for an Inspiratory time of .4 seconds. Now it is very unusual for a Doctor's Order to include the I Time. It is simply never done. I would never put a Patient on such a set breathing time. Heck, I get the jitters with .7, and I don't even like .8, but it is used enough.

Imagine a pump blowing into your lungs up to half a Liter of pressurized air in under a half second. Try to imagine it. A typical breath is 400-500 ml and most people require about a second to draw it in. COPD Patients tend to require longer exhalation times so their I to E ratios are often 1 to 4 or even 1 to 5. A 1 to 2, or 1 to 3 is probably normal for most healthy persons, but everyone is different. A .4 inspire time could result in lung shearing or damage to the Alveolar. It cannot be allowed.

This is some of the things that we all do.

I agree that the mandated protocols were problematic. Still, most of us are ‘Experts’ in our areas. No Nurse would permit a Physician to damage her Patient with poorly thought out therapeutics.

The crap Remdesivir was not used much in my place, if at all. I honestly do not know, but I could find out easily enough. I have lots of Nurse friends. They (some of them) would tell me.

The Administration, I admit, I do not trust them. They take orders from Bureaucrats in Government Agencies, and to this day they are compelling people to wear those absurdly useless masks just for a routine office visit. Those masks do nothing positive regarding viruses.

1,739 posted on 03/24/2022 7:31:24 AM PDT by Radix (Politicians; the Law and the Profits )
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To: smileyface; Radix
Not by withholding interventions, but by applying mandated (and financially beneficial) protocols for a particular patient populations.

From personal experience, I agree with smileyface and I'd bet I'm not alone. It's when one goes from standard ER and traditional hospital care into the CDC/Corona Money Scam and required "protocols" is where things change from "best care" to "$$$" care and the patient be damned and untold thousands are dead or injured. What has happened the past two years is nothing short of criminal.

It's going to take me many years (if not forever) until I regain much confidence in the pharmaceutical industry or medical profession.

1,771 posted on 03/24/2022 10:10:04 AM PDT by Gritty (Follow the money in politics, you find the criminals. Is it now true in the medical profession?)
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