Posted on 02/14/2022 7:12:52 PM PST by BenLurkin
Any rapist, or any potential rapist, must immediately be given at least $10 million of taxpayer money to compensate for the damage they've suffered.
This, or anything remotely similar, should NOT be done as it serves to discourage rape victims from reporting their crimes. Just IMHO, of course.
Except that they arrested the rape victim.
Oh. That’s so wild it didn’t compute. Thanks for correction.
Like the DNA in the China Virus 19 test kits being entered into data bases?
FR Thread not too long ago revealed that same test kit was used to identify a fugitive that fled the US to Scottland.
“This, or anything remotely similar, should NOT be done as it serves to discourage rape victims from reporting their crimes. Just IMHO, of course.”
Perhaps it might encourage them not to commit crimes.
Really neither one is here or there.
Can this DNA be used in such a way is the question.
I read it like Steely Tom at first also.
You are a gentleman and a scholar sir!
Had the same approach with Kobe Bryant in Colorado. You see how that turned out.
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You realize that they are entering the both the victim’s and the rapist’s DNA into the same database and using to solve other crimes.
I realized it once someone who had carefully read the story pointed it out to me.
Back at ya.
Once your DNA is in CODIS, it’s in CODIS forever.
Only a matter of time before everyone is entered - how’s that ‘constitutional right to privacy’ working out?
What are they, democrats?
“This, or anything remotely similar, should NOT be done as it serves to discourage rape victims from reporting their crimes.”
Hmmm. I get your argument but not sure I agree. Let’s say that a rape victim murdered someone in the past, is it better that that crime remain unsolved than the victim be discouraged from reporting her rape? I don’t know. And if she’s discouraged from coming forward simply because she anticipates that it will limit her ability to commit future crimes, is that really something that is so horrible that we should worry about it? Also, couldn’t the same thing be said of something like fingerprints? Like if the cops are investigating a crime scene and they need to distinguish the victim’s fingerprints from the perp’s, they might obtain the victim’s prints. Should they never do anything with that information?
That's one of the consequences of transgenderism.
DNA obtained from a victim of a crime should be inadmissible as evidence, and it should not even be cross-checked in a crime database. There is no reasonable suspicion. It should be gathered for exclusionary purposes and then properly discarded as soon as possible.
The issue is not protecting the victims future intent to commit or protection of past crimes committed. There are 3 obvious issues that will arise here:
1️⃣ Victim hesitation to report allows a rapist to continue on to others
▪️This would certainly dissuade me to report a rape were I a victim. The consequence of which would be a rapist continuing to violate and harm others. Often criminals escalate their crimes when they are not caught for the previous offense. What happens when the next victim is not only raped but murdered because the women who it began with was scared to come forward?
2️⃣ Innocent people become suspects wasting law enforcement’s time and resources and causing undo harm to crime victims
▪️What happens if my DNA was at a crime scene however I had nothing to do with the crime? (IE a cigarette I through out in the vicinity of a later committed crime). Under normal circumstances that DNA profile would be used to see if a know criminal was at the scene, a previous crime (solved or unsolved) is related establishing patterns, or would be compared to DNA of suspects found through other means of investigation (an ex boyfriend, angry coworker, etc). If non of these apply chances are it was coincidence and the police move to other evidence.
▪️As stated previously criminals often repeat and escalate their previous crimes. This is why any codes hit is investigated. If the victim is in a database of criminals, the police must consider this as not coincidence but suspicion. In investigating those without criminal history and unrelated by other means, it is more likely a waste of valuable time better spent investigating other leads. It also would place undo stress and harm to the victim. It wastes the victims time, can bring back memories of their own victimization, and potentially harm their reputation.
3️⃣ Potential for future Government overreach
▪️Ask yourself, would you be comfortable with the government keeping your DNA on file? Would you volunteer your DNA just because you had no intention of a future crime? I would not and doubt you would either. Like most of us here you likely fully distrust the intentions and likely abuse of these systems by the government if given access innocent people’s DNA.
▪️I do not even like the idea they have the ability to access my search history, location, phone records, etc much less the idea of them having access to my DNA! We have seen time and time again any data they gain will be abused ad nauseam.
🛑 In conclusion, this practice is a slippery slope which will🛑➡️
⚠️ Allow for the perpetrator to continue to victimize women.
⚠️ Hinder law enforcement in solving crimes and cause undo harm to crime victims
⚠️ Allow the Government to further encroach upon the people’s privacy and freedoms.
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