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Is Old Music Killing New Music?
The Atlantic ^ | January 23, 2022 | Ted Gioia

Posted on 01/23/2022 3:42:55 PM PST by Yardstick

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To: Tijeras_Slim
A guy did a cover of 4:33 and Cage’s estate sued him. He argued in court that his silence was completely different. I think the judge threw them both out.

It wasn't a cover which is why Cage's estate sued. Since it was longer than 4 minutes and 33 seconds (by a few seconds) the judge said the estate had to show exactly which 4 minutes and 33 seconds were lifted from the original. Since they couldn't the case was tossed.

101 posted on 01/23/2022 5:43:50 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Yardstick

Today’s mass cultures is garbage, but I think there are some interesting new musicians off the beaten path. My son, who is 21, grew up with the old music by his own choice, so he has developed a good taste in music. The new stuff he listens to is good. I listen to the old stuff because it is my comfort music, and I will listen to big band, jazz, standards, classic rock, Motown, and traditional country. There is a great radio station in Chicago where you can hear Sinatra, the Buckinghams, Tom Jones, Tina Turner,and Joni Mitchell in an hour of listening. But I have encountered some good new acts as well. I found Mean Mary (country, folk, Americana) and The Carolina Chocolate Drops (black string band, blues, jazz) while looking for something else on YouTube. I heard Porter Union (traditional country) on a now-defunct AM country station one night while driving to St. Louis. I ran into Ray Scott (traditional country) on Facebook. These artists record and perform only at small venues, and it’s a shame they aren’t better known.


102 posted on 01/23/2022 5:43:58 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: Stosh

Still listen to “Alice’s Restaurant” at some point every Thanksgiving.


103 posted on 01/23/2022 5:44:25 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: FLNittany
Today’s music isn’t honest music.

Bingo.

104 posted on 01/23/2022 5:44:52 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: pangaea6

Yep. The issue is how music is presented. Its slapped on Youtube and you have to search for it, and most of it sucks (see our resident Count Vlad) The crap that gets noticed is all Simion Cowel image over substance make me a fast buck. In the 70’s there were original bands that came out of the woodworks that 50 years later still hold up. Rap and Autotune ruined music and will continue to.


105 posted on 01/23/2022 5:45:57 PM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian ( 2022 - VOTE THE BUMS OUT —— ALL OF THEM! RE-ELECT NO ONE!!)
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To: gundog

LOL!


106 posted on 01/23/2022 5:52:16 PM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: fidelis

A newish group that was very good was The Civil Wars (Joy Williams and John Paul White), but they broke up. I still listen to their Barton Hollow CD.

I like songs from the “Hamilton” musical like The Schuyler Sisters and The Room Where it Happens. Very catchy and tuneful.

The good modern symphonic music is often in movie scores. Hans Zimmer, Rachel Portman, Alexandre Desplat, Danny Elfman, et al. are very talented.


107 posted on 01/23/2022 5:52:21 PM PST by Cecily
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To: Yardstick
My music is 1950s...1960s...and,to a small degree,1980s. I've always gravitated toward music done by those older than me or about the same age.

Younger? No thanks!

108 posted on 01/23/2022 5:59:56 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: Responsibility2nd

No, I love music!

I was answering the question.


109 posted on 01/23/2022 6:00:03 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

The DJ’s at KSHE Radio in St. Louis took a LOT of long breaks. For many years, one might hear something like Court of the Crimson King (King Crimson), Salisbury (Uriah Heep), etc. And that wasn’t even on their “The Seventh Day” show on Sundays, when they’d play seven entire albums in a row, each LP side uninterrupted.

I always figured “Stairway To Heaven” got a lot of play for those bathroom breaks you mention... ;-)


110 posted on 01/23/2022 6:06:25 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Yardstick
I'm standing on the threshold of geezerdom, but still tune into newer music.

I really like Lord Huron, Manchester Orchestra, and Weezer still cracks me up.

I'll be humming Pink Triangle the entire time Maura Healey's gubenatorial campaign is happening, which I hope implodes as soon as I post this reply.

111 posted on 01/23/2022 6:08:38 PM PST by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness
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To: Yardstick

Music, like fundamental science, has stagnated over the past 40-years due to a major reduction in the averages of both I.Q. and imagination in the highly educated human population.


112 posted on 01/23/2022 6:15:16 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: Yardstick
Who only listens to radio nowadays?

Radio is my only source for music. I only listen to music when I'm driving, so I just listen to what's on the radio.

113 posted on 01/23/2022 6:17:18 PM PST by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Yardstick

I just listened to 5-6 new bands people here have listed.

I do not get what is so great about them. No catchy memorable tunes.

I cannot remember a single one.

Back on the 70’s the first time you heard Melissa or Green Grass and High Tides, or Your Song by Elton John or a Pschechelic Furs or Heaven by The Cure, they a distinct sound that immediately attracted you to them and you knew they would be a hit

All these new groups sound alike.


114 posted on 01/23/2022 6:31:19 PM PST by setter
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To: ShadowAce

Steam powered giraffe?. Listened to them 10-12 years ago and liked their stuff. They lost some members, one became trans and didnt hear anymore new stuff, I was done. Honeybee was my fav song.


115 posted on 01/23/2022 6:32:02 PM PST by Ikeon (Amund abruy was a thief who got caught and a was a general pos. Never talk to THE COPS )
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To: Yardstick
Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, and Miley Cyrus represent "modern music."

They are also among the most Satanic creatures in pop culture today.

No one in his right mind will listen to any of these Satanic losers.

116 posted on 01/23/2022 6:35:22 PM PST by Prole
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To: pangaea6

Yep good points. Are there still top 40 radio stations?


117 posted on 01/23/2022 7:04:53 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: webheart

Can we talk about church worship music too?

I do not like most contemporary worship songs.

My daughter (who is a young adult) and I talk about how cringeworthy they are. How did we go from Handel’s Messiah to today’s music.


118 posted on 01/23/2022 7:05:06 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Yardstick

The correct answer for the moment is it sucks and MAY never come back. Every 3rd person thinks they will be a “musician” or “recording artist”— and the “industry” perpetuates this notion as they always have (parasitic in nature).

Here’s an example of 11 plus years ago— a song and artist that is infuriating- the track sounds like a cartoon soundtrack and at the same time the chorus and ending is a long annoying whiny weenie screed about a failed love affair.
Plan on suffering for their “art” (as they apparently, did):

Gotye- Somebody That I Used to Know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY

As an antidote here’s the Eagles “Get Over It”— because the real underlying whine is “millenial” as in you need to pay for me, because...I’m me!
“Like to Find your little child and kick it’s little a@@!”
Get Over It— Predate Gotye by more than 10 years— they knew, The Eagles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViZIBhlBkcQ


120 posted on 01/23/2022 7:08:01 PM PST by John S Mosby ( Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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