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To: DoodleBob

I have a 2018 Toyota Avalon. It did NOT come with remote connect, which would have been a deal breaker. I dislike these key fobs as they are, because they can cost $200 and is one more mechanical element making cars more electronic and less mechanical, which I am not crazy about. (Except electronic fuel injection. I like that one.)


4 posted on 01/17/2022 8:18:42 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Talking aboutkey FOB’s. My car has the push in button to start it that uses a key fob.

I drove to a local businesse last week and guess what? Trying to start the car and the battery in the key fob went out and the car would not start.

The owner had an employee drive me down to the gas station to buy a new battery.

I figure the battery in the FOB was down and with the 15 degree weather it killed it.


10 posted on 01/17/2022 8:33:53 PM PST by setter
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To: Dr. Sivana

We just got a new car for the wife. The key fob replacement cost is $500.


13 posted on 01/17/2022 8:44:11 PM PST by sauropod (Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

The safest system is the actual metal key type with the transponder attached. Someone would have to steal your key, car jack you or order a key from the manufacturer or dealer. Thus the increase in car jackings.

The new remote electronic fobs are hackable. It is being done with laptops last I saw.

If its wireless it can be hacked.


23 posted on 01/17/2022 9:57:02 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Dr. Sivana

“and is one more mechanical element making cars more electronic and less mechanical, which I am not crazy about. (Except electronic fuel injection. I like that one.)”

Same here, been in the repair industry all my life and the only electronic advantages I have embraced are electronic fuel injection and ignition timing. If you added these to a Model T engine it would put out a whopping 25 Hp and get 30 MPG. lol

The T got anywhere from 13 to 21 MPG. All depending on how well the carb was tuned and how good the driver was at regulating the manual timing lever.


33 posted on 01/18/2022 3:46:33 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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