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To: Jan_Sobieski

Jan_Sobieski wrote: “Get vaxxed, get COVID…”

completely ignoring the fact that there have been over 400,000 COVID cases and 5381 deaths in Oregon. IOW, slightly more than 10% of the deaths have been among the vaccinated.

So, ‘don’t get vaxxed, die from COVID’.


21 posted on 12/11/2021 8:29:35 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Those 400k you mentioned is the TOTAL cases for almost two years so of course there are more unvaxxed. Talk about misleading with numbers! The shot was not widely available for all adults until April

https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/oregon.health.authority.covid.19/viz/OregonCOVID-19CaseandVaccinationStories/Statewide
The only way to compare is to separate the two groups:

Unvaxxed, partial vaxxed and vaxxed within 14 days:
19,458 hospitalized/354,643 cases = 5.4%
4,829 deaths / 354,643 cases = 1.4%

Vaxxed:
1999 hospitalized/ 45,545 cases = 4.4%
552 deaths/45,545 cases = 1.2%

Ideally this would be done monthly so people could see the trends side by side, and adjust for percentage vaxxed each month, but they are not doing that.

Georgia did it for a while until the vaxxed hospitalization rate and death rate passed the unvaxxed about 7 weeks ago, then they stopped reporting the unvaxxed numbers.


29 posted on 12/11/2021 9:36:18 AM PST by LilFarmer
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To: DugwayDuke

1.3 percent people dying who get covid no matter vaxxed or unvaxxed in Oregon. The percentages are 1.6 percent over all in the nation. In our region and in my hospital. similar numbers, 1.6 percent die who actually get covid but those who die are greater than 95 percent unvaxxed. The other 5 percent were those who were vaxxed real early and were older with lots of co-morbidities.

So Oregon is actually slightly better in the covid death department than we are in Central Virginia but we have a large and vax suspicious minority population and many overweight. We have seen them sicker and younger in the last wave but they were grossly overweight with lung and sugar issues and many with substance abuse histories. The lighter weight a person was with no bad habits then the greater the chance that we could save them once they hit our ICU.

Still we lose about 80 percent of them.(better than 90 percent a year ago). We are seeing fewer in the ICU of late though static in patient populations of in patients with covid still are averaging about 30 or so not counting the ICU. The treatments are getting better with certain experimental therapeutics and some new “vir” and “mab” oral pills they are trying(the names escape me right now) and they aren’t using remdesivir as much.(still not much IVM or HCQ unfortunately). They are better and looser with using aerosolized treatments then they were a year ago and I think that is helping a lot. We are seeing more vaxxed people(about 10 vaxxed to every 90 unvaxxed) coming into the med floors but they get better after a few days and go home and the Unvaxxed struggle a bit more but they too seem to be getting better with a bit of support and not coming to the ICU in the numbers that they were.

So the numbers coming into our hospital with covid are staying steady with discharges equal to admits but they aren’t crashing and dying like they had been. Better therapeutics and I hope soon a loosening on IVM and HCQ seem to be leading the way. We didn’t have to let COVID 19 crash this country and I’m beyond furious as an RN at the politics being played with this disease!


30 posted on 12/11/2021 9:45:58 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Having the Conch shell is no longer recognized by Dem "Flies" as giving one authority to speak.)
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To: DugwayDuke

The hospitals make sure they die of covid by withholding treatment. Its more like, get COVID and the hospitals finish you off


31 posted on 12/11/2021 9:48:00 AM PST by roving
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