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In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled 89% of Covid-19 Deaths among the Fully Vaccinated – Latest Public Health Data proves this is a ‘Pandemic of the Fully Vaccinated’ and suggests the Vaccinated are more likely to die, SomeCallMeTim wrote:

Can someone explain this to me?

The explanation is in the fine print of Table 20. If you follow the links, it takes you here:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsinvolvingcovid19byvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween2januaryand24september2021

Where you will learn this:

The age-standardised mortality rate for deaths involving COVID-19 is 32 times higher for unvaccinated people than for those who received the second dose

It's basically a way of correcting for the factors I just mentioned in an earlier post. MOST Covid deaths are old people. But, MOST deaths of ANY kind, are also old people. In Scotland, as in most countries very close to 100% of elderly people are vaccinated. Thus, these "vaccinated" people are dying at a MUCH higher rate than the "unvaccinated" younger people. This factoring, done by Scottish Health authorities, corrects for this age bias.

They also mention the other factor I mentioned: Overall health is another factor. They don't have a way of correcting for this, but... typically, older people have significantly higher co-morbidities.

I'm fascinated by another factor that stands out...(one that I also see in the Singapore data) that is: People who receive only 1 dose are close to the same danger level as the unvaccinated. It really takes TWO doses, and some time for the benefits to become significant.

SomeCallMeTim, 

Since the official report states that the Age Standardized Mortality Rate (ASMR) for Deaths invovling Covid-19 ASMRs do not show a causal link between vaccines and a risk of mortality, how do you feel the ASMR information you quoted is best interpreted by the public?

 

 

Quoting it as you do, might people get the false impression that the ASMR actually indicates the 'vaccines' made the 32 fold difference in mortality when the document states that calculation does not mean that.

It seems you're refuting the Expose's article's title indicating the vaccines result in higher rates of illness among the vaccinated by misquoting the Age Standardized Mortality Rate.

The Expose's article title is correct - it truly is a Pandemic of The 'Vaccinated'. 

 

 

[SomeCallMeTim]

Quoting it as you do, might people get the false impression that the ASMR actually indicates the 'vaccines' made the 32 fold difference in mortality when the document states that calculation does not mean that.

Really? You look at that page, and ALL that data that shows vaccinated people are dying from Covid at far LOWER rates than unvaccinated, and THIS is your takeaway? I'm really starting to doubt that you are a serious person?

CORRELATION does not equal CAUSE.

As serious scientist, they went to great lengths to make this clear. They specifically state:

ASMRs take into account differences in age structure and population size to allow comparisons between vaccination status groups; however some differences between the groups such as health status may remain and partly explain the differences in ASMRs.

yes... there COULD be differences for other reasons. Younger people MIGHT be having a raging disease of some other kind that the older people are not seeing. It's HIGHLY unlikely. But, possible. These authors are simply stating that they did not dig deep enough to eliminate that chance.

What they DO SHOW is... VERY STRONG correlation. It's very convincing data to me.

You can ignore it if you like. I guess, ignorance is bliss.