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To: ransomnote; Jim Robinson
More CRAP from Ransomnote.

Here's what the report ACTUALLY says:

COVID-19 cases by vaccination status Recent studies have been released by the UK Health Security Agency, formerly Public Health England (PHE), looking into the effect of vaccination against mild and severe COVID-19. UKHSA analyses show vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic disease with the Delta variant to be approximately 65 to 70% with AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria) and 80 to 95% with the Pfizer-BioNTech (Comirnaty) and Moderna (Spikevax) vaccines. Data from the UKHSA shows that vaccine effectiveness is waning, but remains high, against hospitalisation and death. The first real world results of the effectiveness of the booster vaccination against symptomatic disease shows very high vaccine effectiveness, higher than for the primary course, at 93-94%

These charts are completely misleading, as they do not take into account the VERY HIGH % of the population that is vaccinated in Scotland.

I don't know how many times I have to tell you all: This is LYING with NUMBERS.

FR is being misled. Why?

10 posted on 11/25/2021 6:08:26 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

As someone who is unvaccinated I have to agree with you.
For example, let’s say you have a sample of 10,000 people. 8000 have brown hair and 2000 have blond hair.

If 50 brown haired people are involved in car crashes while 25 blond haired people are involved in car crashes, you might think, “Wow, it’s a lot safer to be have brown hair”.

But you’d be forgetting the fact that there are, in the sample of 10K people, 4X as many people that have brown hair as have blonde hair. So percentage wise, it’s actually safer to have brown hair.


12 posted on 11/25/2021 6:28:57 PM PST by Signalman (HA)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
FR is being misled. Why?

Yea why, Timmy?

Explain yourself.


18 posted on 11/25/2021 7:33:28 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

SomeCallMeTim wrote: More CRAP from Ransomnote.

ransomnote: More pointless abusive remarks from you.

SomeCallMeTim wrote: Here's what the report ACTUALLY says:

COVID-19 cases by vaccination status Recent studies have been released by the UK Health Security Agency, formerly Public Health England (PHE), looking into the effect of vaccination against mild and severe COVID-19. UKHSA analyses show vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic disease with the Delta variant to be approximately 65 to 70% with AstraZeneca (Vaxzevria) and 80 to 95% with the Pfizer-BioNTech (Comirnaty) and Moderna (Spikevax) vaccines. Data from the UKHSA shows that vaccine effectiveness is waning, but remains high, against hospitalisation and death. The first real world results of the effectiveness of the booster vaccination against symptomatic disease shows very high vaccine effectiveness, higher than for the primary course, at 93-94%

ransomnote: It's like a jobs report wherein the goverment lies to make the public think the administration is doing better than it is. In this case, the Government doesn't want the public to know the vaccine they are punishing people into getting doesn't work, and in fact weakens the immune system.

SomeCallMeTim wrote: These charts are completely misleading, as they do not take into account the VERY HIGH % of the population that is vaccinated in Scotland.

Some of the charts do take into account the ratio of vaxxed/unvaxxed when it is relevant. It's not always relevant. The news casters and outlets are all blaring this is a 'pandemic of the unvaxxed' which is absolutely false. 

From the article:
"This data proves that the majority of Covid-19 cases in the past four weeks have been among the fully vaccinated population."

Sometimes when  making a point, it's appropriate to make general statements and then qualify more precise ones. This one is general - majority of cases, hospitalizations and deaths are among the 'vaccinated', so if the news wants to be accurate, they can stop lying and claiming that most cases/hospitalization/deaths are unvaccinated. 

Why don't you object to your 'narrative' handlers saying that it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated when about 9 out of every 10 deaths are among the vaccinated?

The following chart shows the percentage of Covid-19 cases, hospitalisations and deaths by vaccination status according to the latest Public Health Scotland ‘Covid-19 Statistical Report’. It doesn't take into account the prevalence of vax/unvax in the population; it doesn't need to in this instance.

What we can see is that claims the public were subjected to stating that the 'vaccine' would reduce severity are false. In the chart below, if the 'vaccines' worked, the red bars of the vaccinated would each be shorter in length, moving left to right on the chart. Instead, they worsen.

Looking at the data another way,  about 88% of Covid deaths are among the 'vaccianted.' The chart is useful. 

ransomnote: The charts are not misleading. The government put the data out and the public is allowed to analyze and discuss them at will. Glass half empty - glass half full discussions normally take place.

SomeCallMeTim wrote: I don't know how many times I have to tell you all: This is LYING with NUMBERS.

FR is being misled. Why?

ransomnote:Many different types of charts and different ways of looking at the data are normal. Apparently you believe we should only be presented with one way of looking at the charts; you stringently adhere to the government's best-face portrayal using horrible data.

You insult and shriek that it's lies; it's actually data analysis and you only tolerate your preferences. 

You said in your insulting email to me that the information in the article I am posting is 'dangerous'. That's what the Biden Regime, and his handlers in the CCP label information they want suppressed and crushed. 'Dangerous'?  To them - to the regimes. Information is 'dangerous'. But to free people - it's just data we can discuss and debate.

The CDC admitted in May of this year that only 6% of it's "Covid" death rate were persons who died from Covid alone. Set aside from the fact that there's no legitimate test for "Covid" and the CDC knows this. In May the CDC admitted 94% of "Covid" deaths were among people with an average of 4 other comorbidities (hint: they died of other things). So what's 'dangerous' is keeping information about this in the dark. The illness itself is highly survivable EVEN WHEN TREATMENT IS STRINGENTLY DENIED the patient.

Then, there are REAL treatment protocols outside the CDC which cut the risk of hospitalization and death by 85%. 

Letting the CDC/NIH run propaganda campaigns, punish doctors to keep them from speaking, and pushing toxic 'vaccine's' and products like Remdesivir, essentially lies on a nightly/daily basis, is 'dangerous'. Free speech is what keeps us free.


21 posted on 11/25/2021 7:39:59 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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