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From today's discussion at market ticker:

These were posted on naked capitalism today by a biologist who often posts there and also by the internal medicine doctor who posts there. They are about omicron and possible similarities with chicken coronaviruses. I don't know how to evaluate these concerns:

"GM also mentioned a troubling parallel from veterinary medicine:

It will be at least two weeks before there is neutralization data.

They need to order the DNA, make pseudovirus, then validate it, then run the actual assays. Even working full time, that will take a while. Although the people in South Africa might have started on this quite some time ago.

The words serotype and strain will be avoided at all costs.

If you start talking about serotypes, you immediately concede that the mass infection policy is foolish, and, given the consequences, outright criminal.

You also risk opening a serious discussion of the one thing that for some mysterious reason has not been touched on at all since the start of the pandemic the IBV literature. IBV is a chicken coronavirus, quite similar to COVID in many of its manifestations. They have vaccines against it, but its a never ending Red Queen game of whac-a-mole against new serotypes and variants, against which previous vaccines dont work at all. And apparently there are some examples of really drastic evolutionary jumps there that we are yet to see with COVID, but may well do in the future. One can speculate why that has never been discussed its either because nobody cares about veterinary medicine so few know about it (true) or because nobody wanted to talk about it due to the implications. But the people who study coronaviruses do know about it. Which is why none of big names has said anything about vaccines solving this, it attenuating to a common cold, herd immunity, or anything of the sort.

IM Docs mafia, which heretofore had largely been vaccine enthusiasts, with a few old codgers having reservations about their limited efficacy v. transmissions with Delta, is in a newly sober mood:

My virologist friend in [major city] not a corona expert reported to me on Friday that the pants are officially being shat in virology departments all over the country.

And yes the IBV did come up in a conference I attended on Friday. MIND YOU not from the speaker but someone in the audience that I did not know. And all the speaker could say is that he was not very familiar with it but that there were some very disturbing parallels. He went on to add that the corona virus experts he knew were all deeply concerned about this development and that it could be a game changer. When the inevitable vaccine question came up the speaker certainly was no longer RAH RAH RAH like he had been in the past. In fact, he became rather forlorn. I got the idea it is already clear to the smart kids in the room that we have a severe problem."

Refers to a discussion on naked capitalism, which discussion I have been unable to locate.

Naked capitalism seems to have one step more advanced/deeper discussion of the coof, than market ticker.

1,727 posted on 11/29/2021 5:40:00 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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said, "My virologist friend in [major city] not a corona expert reported to me on Friday that the pants are officially being shat in virology departments all over the country"

It's about time. The problem though as with Global warming and real atmospheric scientists they don't control the narrative. They're drowned out
1,731 posted on 11/29/2021 5:51:32 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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This new fake Omicron Variant is going to be used as a MASS COVERUP FOR JAB DEATHS 💉— Simsy (@NotSoGreatReset) November 29, 2021


1,752 posted on 11/29/2021 6:52:40 PM PST by little jeremiah (Where We Go One We Go All)
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