America Has Lost the Plot on COVID

Atlantic Monthly ^ | November 1, 2021 | Sarah Zhang

[Glad2bnuts]

For every death from Covid in the age group of 1 to 18, 250 will die from the vaxx.

[Glad2bnuts]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZEWxAXFfHVka/

Begin watching around 8 minutes in and let the information roll over the folds in your brain.

[daniel1212]

If the vaccines work to prevent death, why is it the case, when millions of Americans have now been vaccinated, COVID deaths are way, way up compared to the same time last year, when no one had been vaccinated?

"Not enough people have been vaccinated."

Actually 85.7% of the Population 65 Years of Age and older have been fully vaxxed (98% one dose) and almost 70% of the pop. 12 and older have been vaccinated. (https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations_vacc-total-admin-rate-total) And until very recently case and death rates were higher than there were last Fall. Moreover, many other nations (as Israel, and the UK), and places report that most of the cases and hospitalizations have been among the vaxxed, and CDC data has been unreliable on this for much of the past and its data on Rates of COVID-19 Cases and Deaths by Vaccination Status has not been updated for over 2 months!

Moreover [links from a larger compilation here], Moreover, numerous new studies suggest that Covid-19 infection in recovered persons results in a lasting protective immune response,[125] [126][127][128][129] [130][131] [132] [133] [134] even in people who developed only mild symptoms of Covid-19, [135]and perhaps equal to[136] or even greater than vaccination alone[137] [138][139] [140][141] [142] (and see studies on immunity referenced previously), and which may not be necessary for such.[143][144][145]while according to one study the viral loads of persons with the Delta variant have been found to be the same among both vaccinated and unvaccinated persons, with or without symptoms.[146]

Another study (reported 2–24–21) from the National Cancer Institute. also found that Coronavirus infection leads to immunity that’s comparable to a COVID-19 vaccine, with the risk of developing a subsequent infection more than three months later being about 90% lower than it was for people who had not been previously infected and had no immunity.[147][148] [149]

In addition, a Cleveland Clinic study evaluated COVID-19 infections in 52,238 employees and found that COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine.[150] Meanwhile, although overall effective against the Alpha variant, there are reports which indicate that vaccination ha been far less effective against the Delta variant,[151] with one study reporting that a large study finding vaccination have no effectivness after 9 months.[152] Other studies report protection against infection falling under 50 percent for two of them after six months. According to researchers, Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine dropped to 58 percent in September from 89.2 percent effectiveness in March. “During the same time frame, Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine fell to 43.3 percent from 86.9 percent, and Johnson & Johnson’s shot declined to 13.1 percent from 86.4 percent.”[153]

And looking at Fall 2020 vs. 2021: Confirmed cases by month Per capita

Sept. 2020

Sept. 2021

Oct. 2020

Oct. 2021

As of Fall 2021 Covid-assigned case and deaths rates were actually high than a year ago. However, it is reasonable to surmise that due to political media bias, this reality was not headlined as it typically would have been a year ago.

And while cases are now decreasing overall, the correlation btwn vaccination and cases is not consistent,at least in the last 2 weeks:

While i believe CV-19 vaccination overall helps in the short term, with risks which means the fit and health at least need it not be mandated, your recourse then to blame the unvaxxed looks specious.

[gitmo]

I’ve been taking ivermectin as a preventive, but my doctor said I really oneed to since I had (asymptomatic) COVID. He said the odds of me getting COVID again are so remote and even if I get it, it would be very mild.

[cuban leaf]

Meh. And your average Nazi had nothing but contempt for the average jew. How much someone else’s contempt affects me depends on who it’s coming from. The best defense against people like that is to laugh in their faces. Which I have done.

[unread]

"That's how diseases are sent away....with vaccinations."

When they produce a TRUE vaccination, in the traditional sense, I'll be the first in line... But, because of this RNA, DNA crap, the people involved, the odd behavior of our own government INSISTING that those not even at risk take the jab, they can stuff it..!

[MarMema]

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/

“Overall, 194,001,108 people or 59% of the population have been fully vaccinated.”

Not enough. And lots of us ran out before the booster.
If we had had a higher percentage sooner, things might be different.

[Magnum44]

If we had had a higher percentage sooner, things might be different.

[daniel1212]

"“Overall, 194,001,108 people or 59% of the population have been fully vaccinated.” Not enough. And lots of us ran out before the booster. If we had had a higher percentage sooner, things might be different."

Why are you posting misleading information? You should know that the 59% stat includes those under 12, who constituent less than 500 Covid-assigned deaths out of 778,000 (rounded), while in the United States in 2019 1,053 children 14 years and younger died in car crashes. What is your stand on that (and abortion)? And in the UK it is reported that "An investigation of official ONS data has revealed that since the Covid-19 vaccine was offered and administered to kids in England and Wales there has been a 86% rise in deaths among male children compared to the same period in 2020."

In addition, as shown and ignored, higher vax rates do not consistently mean lower case rates, while in some areas most of the cases are among the vaxed. While as for boosters, where does it end?

You need to realize that the real reason for most Covid-assigned deaths is due to obesity (42% of Americans; 73% overweight) and (usually related) conditions, and which the shutdown fosters and collectively cause far far more deaths than Covid, and thus being healthy and fit (as able) and socially conscious is the real answer. Just the opposite of shutdowns.

[Pelham]

“But hey, go ahead and prove your allegiance to Dear Leader.. after all”

Curses, you found me out!

The History of Vaccines website seems to think that vaccines are defined by their ability to teach your immune system to produce antibodies. Of course they don’t have a category of “REAL vaccines” so who knows. They label the flu shot a vaccine which won’t be popular with the “real vaccine” crowd. Maybe they are part of the plot by Dear Leader to fool those who aren’t privy to the secret knowledge.

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/

[UNGN]

The ONLY way out of an outbreak of a virus of this type is through it. The best thing to come out of this would be to let the kids get infected, to recover and pass immunity down to their children. It does happen, look at the Spanish Flu, it didn’t disappear, humans overcame it, just like we did uncounted diseases.

This time though, government created, planned and executed this on a worldwide stage. They want total control, they want that New World Order and on their terms.

If George Washington was President instead of Joe Biden and had the data the CDC currently has, he would hang Fauci and Francis Collins as Traitors and Would mandate all children under 18 to get infected with the virus by revolving lottery in 6 separate groups/14 days apart.

Nobody can convince me he wouldn't do this, because that's the kinda "founding father shit" they did back then, and here we are 250 years later.

[MarMema]

Why do you think it is misleading?

[mewzilla]

SARS and MERS.

No vaxxes.

[daniel1212]

"Why do you think it is misleading?"

Ignoring that as the article states, "the risk of hospitalization for an unvaccinated person over 80 is 25 times that for an unvaccinated person under 18," and as I said 85.7% of the Population 65 Years of Age and older have been fully vaxxed (98% one dose) and almost 70% of the pop. 12 and older have been vaccinated, and you responding to this by stating only "59% of the population have been fully vaccinated" when that includes those who are in the least need of it, and should not be forced to be vaxxed.

And that increasingly most infections are among the vaccinated, which is contrary to your premise that the problem is lack of vaccination. The latest problem is that of Vermont, which leads the nation in vaccination with a rate at 164.79, yet Vermont’s Covid-19 case rate has spiked to record levels, increasing 42% over the past seven day, with no decline in sight And The Netherlands (70% vaxxed) recorded its third highest number of positive coronavirus tests in a single day on Wednesday, with 12,713 new cases.

Being unvaxxed is too much the new Climate Change, all evil it is be blamed on it.

And also being ignored is the elephant in the room, which is that the real reason we have a pandemic is due to the overall poor condition of Americans. For over 5% of reported COVID-19 deaths, that virus was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. “For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death. (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities) Mostly being related to obesity, a preventable condition.

[daniel1212]

" Why do you think it is misleading? "

To further clarify, presenting vaccination as The Answer and blaming the rising cases all on the unvaxxed is misleading, yet so is arguing that vaccination is not significantly effective in the relative short term (6 months and decreasing) and that the unvaxxed makes up a much higher proportion of rising in Covid case rates. However, as said, the poor fitness and heath of Americans is the real problem as regards death rates. But there is no proportionate response. No nations has overcome prosperity, but we are to put all in God's hands to be used as He leads.