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GOP Sen. Josh Hawley tells men to stop watching porn and playing video games and return to being fathers, husbands and 'somebody who takes responsibility'
UK Daily Mail ^ | November 8, 2021 | Nikki Schwab

Posted on 11/08/2021 12:21:12 PM PST by C19fan

Republican Sen. Josh Hawley said conservatives needed to 'call men back to responsibility,' in a new interview that aired Sunday on Axios on HBO.

'Spending your time on video games, spending your time watching porn online while doing nothing is not good for you, your family, or this country,' Hawley said.

The Missouri Republican also suggested the left should be blamed for men's undoing.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: bingo; funpolice; men
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To: cgbg
How would watching porn of _other_ people do that? What am I missing here—fill in the blanks, please.

Look up narcissism.

When you are jerking off to some young girl, who most likely was trafficked, drugged and force into it, so you can get off, that's narcissism. You have no empathy for her. You use her, her body and then be done with it. You don't give a damn is she kills herself or gets killed. You are a narcissist if you only think about your self and your wants and not about others.... If you are married and watching porn, you are an abuser of both the wife and the women you come off too.

81 posted on 11/08/2021 10:12:38 PM PST by dragonblustar (2 Peter 2:14,1 Corinthians 6:18-20)
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To: precisionshootist
“Put out and being a Christian don’t jive. You either practice your faith or go to hell. Never blame a Christian for keeping the faith!“ You believe everyone that ever had pre-marital sex is going to hell? It’s going to be a crowded place for sure.

The comment was about Christian woman giving it up so she can keep a man or just to get married. The comment was about a woman having to lower her standards and God's will so some childish man can have sex. That is fricken evil!!!!!

82 posted on 11/08/2021 10:16:28 PM PST by dragonblustar (2 Peter 2:14,1 Corinthians 6:18-20)
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To: dragonblustar

OK—I understand your argument.

I really thought you were going to go in a different direction.

Imho it is both true and false at the same time.

Why? Because taken to extremes it is true, but if it is done only occasionally it is overkill.

It is sort of like the Vegans argument about eating meat, blaming meat eaters for the slaughter of animals.

It is true that if everyone stopped eating meat, the slaughter of animals would stop.

But—if _you_ stop eating meat there is very little effect.

It is not my intent to compare the porn “stars” with meat, but rather to help you see the “slippery slope” nature of your argument.


83 posted on 11/08/2021 10:22:58 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Durus

Men who watch porn are addicts. When they consume it, it usually leads to other things. Porn is the root of most evils in a marriage now a days. Men watch porn then escalate in their habit, looking at younger girls, then wanting to act out their sick fantasies. They commit adultery, they steal from the family finances, they abandon their wives emotionally and physically. When men are confronted by their wives about behavior, they will usually gaslight them, lie outright or get physically violent. They are also robbing their wives of intimacy, love and respect. Men become more and more selfish, destroying the family to pursue their lusts. Women often can’t take it any more and leave.

If you don’t think porn is the problem, then you must not read. There’s a billion dollar industry aimed at getting you off porn. Go over to Amazon and look up porn addiction, betrayal trauma, spend some time reading then you’ll see.

Porn destroys lives. It destroys marriages. It destroys families. For the men who watch it and the young girls/boys and women who are sold into it.

Fight the New Drug!!!!


84 posted on 11/08/2021 10:27:54 PM PST by dragonblustar (2 Peter 2:14,1 Corinthians 6:18-20)
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To: Freeman1969
Happy Wife, Happy Life...yet no mention of the husband. Damn it wage and marriage slave, why won’t you sign up for bondage?!

That comment comes from men who are tuned out of their marriage, mostly likely wankers who don't want to be found out. Marriage should be equal. No power struggle of one over the other. Happy couple, happy life!!!

85 posted on 11/08/2021 10:30:14 PM PST by dragonblustar (2 Peter 2:14,1 Corinthians 6:18-20)
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To: WMarshal
So, you are a perpetual cheater. You use women and then say they are the problem. You refer woman as trim? And you say you are not into porn? Got it.

Maybe your wife woke up and found she wasn't with a man. Maybe she needed a man, a real man with some class and taste and not some sleaze ball looking to get laid.

86 posted on 11/08/2021 10:40:20 PM PST by dragonblustar (2 Peter 2:14,1 Corinthians 6:18-20)
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To: dragonblustar

That’s old school thinking.....they leave today for various reasons....some because they just don’t want married life anymore.


87 posted on 11/08/2021 10:43:37 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: dragonblustar
"So, you are a perpetual cheater. You use women and then say they are the problem. You refer woman as trim? And you say you are not into porn? Got it."

Why am I imagining that you own a lot of cats?

88 posted on 11/08/2021 10:46:42 PM PST by WMarshal ("Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither.")
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To: metmom

I think most men and women want a person who takes care of themselves and that doesn’t mean they have to be good looking either. However in most cases they wouldn’t want someone hard to look at either.

I knew a very attractive gal who married a guy who everyone wondered what she saw him in. In talking with her one day I asked what brought the two together....she said he was so polite and a gentleman when with her...and once they began dating nobody ever treated her so good. To this day they are still together and you can still ‘see’ the love they share.

I just think how people view marriage today has been altered to the point where it’s all about trying marriage on like a garment and if things change and they don’t like the fit then they just remove it for another.


89 posted on 11/08/2021 10:52:26 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: dragonblustar

Marriage is and never will be equal....it was never intended to be. It’s a shared arrangement that people find and discover what works for them...none are the same. But there always must be mutual respect....even moreso a wife to her husband. For a wife can’t love a man she doesn’t respect. And he must love her.


90 posted on 11/08/2021 10:56:18 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: dragonblustar

No it’s not...a man can certainly be narcissistic without viewing porn......sheesh.


91 posted on 11/08/2021 10:57:22 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: cgbg

I’m reading here woman not liking men and men not liking woman. Both have forgotten who they are, I think.

I certainly don’t have the answers to what causes marriages to fall apart....but I’ll guarantee you there were unaddressed issues long before any visible manifestation presented itself.

Porn and infidelity are certainly the enemy of mens souls work to destroy marriages....it’s people who somehow get tangled up in it as with any sin that destroys...and that is what sin does. Both are addictive.


92 posted on 11/08/2021 11:04:33 PM PST by caww ( )
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To: metmom

Yes, of course...the woman had nothing to do with it...all the man’s fault, right?


93 posted on 11/08/2021 11:08:49 PM PST by Freeman1969 (God save the Republic!)
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To: dragonblustar

Yet we never hear Happy Couple Happy Life, now do we?


94 posted on 11/08/2021 11:09:46 PM PST by Freeman1969 (God save the Republic!)
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To: metmom

Wrong again... Women like you are the ones who always seem to believe woman good, man bad...

The FR Man Hater Men’s Club - Faithfully broad brushing all men for their entire adult lives.

You man haters do not like push back from us lesser beings, do you?


95 posted on 11/08/2021 11:11:51 PM PST by Freeman1969 (God save the Republic!)
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To: Freeman1969
Damn it wage and marriage slave, why won’t you sign up for bondage?!

Women didn’t which explains why they file for divorce. If men stopped treating women like that, they’d find their marriages lasting longer.

96 posted on 11/08/2021 11:21:03 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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To: WMarshal

She’s better off without you.


97 posted on 11/08/2021 11:24:18 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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To: vpintheak

I lived at home for a long time, but had a full time job, paid room and board, had my own car, my own social life, traveled, did my own laundry, helped with the housework, etc.

A person cannot live cheaper than at home, even paying the level of R&B that I did.

There was also the added benefit that there was also someone around. I was not alone anywhere and it is safer being with others than a single woman on her own.


98 posted on 11/08/2021 11:29:09 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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To: metmom

Now that is funny! So now its men’s fault exclusively for women filing 80% of the divorces?

Women and the STATE treat men as if they are in bondage. We are nothing but a wallet according to the state and most women. Yet, you find a way to say it is the fault of men. You have not addressed one issue that I brought up about the courts, our culture, etc. So, men have no reason to complain, right?

And according to you and your ilk, we should submit and sign that marriage contract, damn the consequences becaue the best we can hope for is the outside chance that we please the superior woman? what a joke!

I love how the only way a man can “man up” and be responsible is to live his life the way it is defined by women. I have news for ya, a man can live any way he pleases and does not need your or the persmission or endorsement of women. If men find porn and video games more worthwhile, maybe women would be better off to ask why. Instead of judging, denigrating, and otherwise tearing down the men. But they never will, because in the female hive mentality, woman can do no wrong, it must be the man’s fault.


99 posted on 11/08/2021 11:31:29 PM PST by Freeman1969 (God save the Republic!)
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To: dragonblustar

Any man getting off on porn is defrauding his wife sexually, something couples are commanded in Scripture not to do.

God lays out guidelines for marriages in several places in Scripture, as well as for general how to treat each other guidelines.

Anyone who follows those will have successful relationships.

The problem is, too many people, men AND women, couldn’t be bothered making the effort to live according to God’s plan, but make their lives and their marriages all about them, about what they can get out of it.

Listening to the whining and blame shifting by so many men on this forum, it’s small wonder their marriages failed. Their response to Sen Hawley demonstrates that he is indeed correct and it’s blindingly obvious some men just don’t want to hear it.


100 posted on 11/08/2021 11:40:09 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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