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1 posted on 11/01/2021 4:57:38 AM PDT by RandFan
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2 posted on 11/01/2021 4:59:53 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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This country is doomed, and the Dems are seeing to it that there is no pulling back.

Poor, stupid, indoctrinated Americans have no idea what’s coming.


3 posted on 11/01/2021 5:00:45 AM PDT by brownsfan (For conservatives, we have taxation without representation.)
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No S * it!


4 posted on 11/01/2021 5:00:47 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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I thought it was excessive chariot horse flatulence...


5 posted on 11/01/2021 5:01:48 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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I'm sure there were also high level Roman officials who talked and talked and talked about the threat posed by unbridled immigration, but did nothing about it.

Some of them may have even orated.

6 posted on 11/01/2021 5:02:53 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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Johnson knows better.

Bureaucracy Kills: A Lesson from Rome

7 posted on 11/01/2021 5:03:32 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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His point is undeniable.

When the city finally fell to a Germanic horde, Gibbon wrote that the gate was opened by someone who had more sympathy with the forces outside, than with the people inside.

Whether that detail is accurate, the Western Empire was being overrun by migrant forces for many decades.

There is no question the Empire fell to this gradual takeover, and not to its foreign enemies to the East and South.


9 posted on 11/01/2021 5:07:32 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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The fall of the Roman Empire closely aligns with the rise of the Roman Catholic Church.

Those turds along with Constantine wanted one universal faith... Happy now? Morons.


12 posted on 11/01/2021 5:27:30 AM PDT by HypatiaTaught (Sounds like a conspiracy theory? Wait 6 months and it will be truth.)
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Well, yes and no. Rome fell to conquering barbarian armies that they no longer had the ability to resist. Rome still had a lot of citizens, but no one was interested in fighting.

While there are no conquering armies (yet), we are being slowly boiled like a frog. And, yes, lots of people inside the gates are sympathetic to those outside. They think letting them all in, with zero vetting, will make their lives better. It won’t.

The fact that we are offering freebees also serves as a magnet. Even Rome wasn’t dumb enough to do that.


14 posted on 11/01/2021 5:37:25 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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One difference is the Romans didn;t invite the invaders. The west is inviting mass immigration.

The intention is to make the whole world, third world. The leaders make out regardless of the quality of life for the serfs.


15 posted on 11/01/2021 5:38:12 AM PDT by Cboldt
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Uncontrolled “immigration” isn’t “immigration”. It’s INVASION.
I understand what Johnson was trying to say and he is correct about his situation in Britain.
Rome “fell” for a number of reasons and the situations were not entirely analogous.
After a series of disastrous wars that lead to the fall of the Roman Republic and the rise of the princepate and empire, Augustus exempted Italians from mandatory service in the legions. Over time, this led to loss of any martial spirit.
You can’t defend your borders without a military so from that point on, troops were mainly recruited from the provinces. A series of Civil Wars in the Second Century, depleted the officer class and ranks of the military so they began recruiting barbarians from across the border as individuals and in groups. Eventually the military establishment was no longer Roman in any real sense.
Here is where the difference between the Roman situation and Britain exists.The barbarians filled a vacuum in the system even though they ultimately filled it to the detriment of the state. The Barbarians for the most part, admired Roman Civilization and wanted to be a part of it, not destroy it. Although Roman and Barbarian society and culture were different, they still had SOME elements of similarity. They were essentially both Indo-European.
In the case of Britain, “immugration” serves no real use.
The people coming in have, for the most part, no real cultural connection to Britain and no desire to absorb British culture or any admiration for it. They believe their culture is superior and are determined to impose it. They only come, again, for the most part, to take advantage of social programs absent in their own countries.


18 posted on 11/01/2021 5:49:20 AM PDT by ZULU (HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATISTS)
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He should also mention toxic masculinity. The barbarians had more of it than the Romans by that period. (Of course the Romans had plenty of toxic masculinity earlier.)


24 posted on 11/01/2021 6:06:05 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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When the Roman Empire fell, it was largely as a result of uncontrolled immigration

...which was the result of the decadence of Roman civilisation,

...a decadence which led inexorably to the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

The warning is there. The West will head it or will experience the fall of Western Civilisation.
27 posted on 11/01/2021 6:10:15 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The woke generation has taken liberty, justice, tolerance and universal brotherhood to their nemesis)
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That immigration followed the expansion of the empire and in that expansion taking into its military ranks men from the European lands it - the Roman Legions - occupied.

It is to me very likely that minus the expansion of the Roman Empire north of Italy, Iberia, Greece and Anatolia, the conditions for the later mass immigration into the empire might not have occurred. However, instead of the empire falling from within by mass immigration, it might have fallen later due to formal war with a Germanic based empire spread out all along the north of it.

The Roman Empire fell because it was no longer a “Roman” empire but had become a multinational empire ruled over from Rome, the center, and then over time the center could not hold.


31 posted on 11/01/2021 6:17:45 AM PDT by Wuli
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The idiots don’t recognize the damage their policies do until it’s too late for awakened voters to clean it up.


32 posted on 11/01/2021 6:18:42 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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In 535 AD The Krakatoa volcano erupted so violently that it blotted out the sun for a few years. It was responsible for the term “dark ages”. The Holy Roman Empire existed around a series of communal grain coops. After Krakatoa erupted grain crops failed, and the remaining coop grain soured. Large portions of the indigenous population died of starvation and plague. Middle eastern and steppe tribes lived on cattle, sheep and goats, ruminants which can survive on un-flowered crops. They moved in to take over territory vacated by the Holy Roman empire.


35 posted on 11/01/2021 6:50:33 AM PDT by nagant
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A bit of a distinction between invading armies and wetbacks

End result is a convulsion of the existing order

Rome simply lost its territories in Gaul and it’s firewall at the Rhine collapsed and hence the Germanic tribes just keep filtering further south and west

By the time Rome fell it was almost just a city state rather than an empire

Constantinople on the other hand lasted a long time


36 posted on 11/01/2021 6:56:08 AM PDT by wardaddy (Too many uninformed ..and scolds here )
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I doubt BoJo has ever read a book in his life.


37 posted on 11/01/2021 7:32:49 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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Barbarian invasions, Boris, barbarian invasions.

And yes, that is what is destroying civilization today.


38 posted on 11/01/2021 7:56:45 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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Paging Captain Obvious.

Of course a society and its culture are going to be aligned with the majority of the race of its population.


40 posted on 11/01/2021 8:02:32 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Think for yourself. (While it's still legal))
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