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To: greeneyes
It is misleading and unscientific to compare the Polio Vax to CV19 Vax. CV19 has an animal reservoir, and can never be eradicated. And mRNA is not even the same process, nor does it prevent the RONA.

Yup. But my intent was not to compare apples (real vaccines, to prevent, pre-2015), (to provide immunity, 2015-2021) and oranges (mRNA, what's the CDC saying they do now? - produce protection, since September 2021).

My intent was to show that the gold standard wasn't as benign as advertised, and they knew, they KNEW it could cause cancer in 1960, and didn't utter a peep, while continuing to churn out and administer contaminated vaccines for three more years.

That's a pretty weak endorsement.

And the initial rollout had to be suspended after 1 month due to causing Polio in some instances. It was traced to a manufacturing error by Cutter Labs.

Did the bad mRNA batch cause suspension of those companies' jabs? No.

I appreciate the additional data indicating the the "modern" latest whizzbang mRNA shots are even worse than the gold standard polio real vaccines.

Vaccinations also can be over used - and virus eventually mutates - to be resistant to Vax. The way we are doing it, currently is worse in this regard.

Yes. Isolating one or two spike proteins is just begging for a single gene mutation or two to totally bypass any trivial protection the mRNA jab offered.

Truthfully it's hard to outdo the natural immune system.

Yep, depending on your viewpoint, hard to improve on God's handiwork, or, as H. G. Wells put it:

But by virtue of this natural selection of our kind we have developed resisting power; to no germs do we succumb without a struggle, and to many—those that cause putrefaction in dead matter, for instance—our living frames are altogether immune. But there are no bacteria in Mars, and directly these invaders arrived, directly they drank and fed, our microscopic allies began to work their overthrow. Already when I watched them they were irrevocably doomed, dying and rotting even as they went to and fro. It was inevitable. By the toll of a billion deaths man has bought his birthright of the earth, and it is his against all comers; it would still be his were the Martians ten times as mighty as they are. For neither do men live nor die in vain.

1,121 posted on 11/03/2021 2:17:31 PM PDT by null and void (The Washington DC Swamp, Where Bottom Feeders Are Apex Predators!)
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To: null and void
Yup. But my intent was not to compare apples (real vaccines, to prevent, pre-2015), (to provide immunity, 2015-2021) and oranges (mRNA, what's the CDC saying they do now? - produce protection, since September 2021).

My intent was to show that the gold standard wasn't as benign as advertised, and they knew, they KNEW it could cause cancer in 1960, and didn't utter a peep, while continuing to churn out and administer contaminated vaccines for three more years.

That's a pretty weak endorsement.
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Well my intent was to show that I agreed that the gold standard had problems and was not as it was advertised. And to throw in additional reasons - I'm not understanding your intro here and the tone of your response. shrug

More additional reasons: Between 1923 and 1953 (before the Salk vaccine's introduction), the polio death rate in the U.S. had declined on its own by 47 percent; England had observed a similar pattern, with a 55 percent decline. Likely related to improved nutrition and sanitation.

Following the use of Salk's vaccine between 1955 and 1963, however, cases of polio in the U.S. increased—by 50 percent from 1957 to 1958 and by 80 percent between 1958 and 1959. And this was in spite of the fact that the Gov. redefined what was a Polio case to help it seem the Vax was effective.

And the SV40 started the very next year, and IIRC, there is evidence that the Government knew it well before 1960. And of course the Government also denied it, and didn't admit it for 50 years.

Additionally, when they moved to OPV, form of the Polio Vax, there were additional problems. Dr. Salk testified before a Senate subcommittee in 1977 that the oral polio vaccine had caused most of the polio cases in the U.S. since the early 1960s. We have since returned to the IPV - an updated version of the Salk.

For sure there is much more that could be thrown in here to show that their Gold Standard has a distinct tarnish. However, there are so many brainwashed people that is a hard row to hoe.

And I am so old that I was in that first rollout group-one of the reasons that I am very picky about vaccinations. Our school was lucky - we didn't get any of the Cutter product. We did have some interesting conversations prior to the next year's mass vax as a result of the Cutter incident.

So I think that multiple facts and comparisons including that they really are comparing apples and oranges to tell the real story are a good thing. YMMV

1,131 posted on 11/03/2021 3:08:36 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: null and void
The stare of the lion.
1,182 posted on 11/03/2021 4:51:00 PM PDT by Melian (The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.)
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