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☕️ Coffee & Covid ☙ Tuesday, October 25, 2021 ☙ LEO BONUSES 🦠
A logical analysis of employer mandates; a famous epidemiologist says he would take his kids out of school before injecting them; the Governor calls out the public health experts, and more...
Jeff Childers
Oct 26
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Good morning and Happy Tuesday, C&C fans! Today’s roundup includes: a logical analysis of employer mandates; a famous epidemiologist says he would take his kids out of school before injecting them; the Governor calls out the public health experts; the Governor recruits uninjected law-enforcement officers; Rogan talks about the horse-dewormer; the Biden Administration discharges more travel mandates; the feds threaten Florida over enforcing its school mask-choice policies, and more.
🗞*COVID NEWS AND COMMENTARY* 🗞
🔥 If an employer can make you get a Covid injection as a condition of employment in order to protect everyone else, why can’t an employer make you get infected with COVID in order to protect everyone else?
It seems to me that the two assertions the pro-injection folks rely on to justify mandates are:
1) Getting injected helps protect vaccinated people.
2) Getting injected is fully justified by the aggregate benefit to the community, and any individual harms caused by the injections are acceptable collateral damage.
Based on those two assertions, if you accept that natural immunity is at least as good as injection immunity, then why not just make everyone get Covid to stay employed?
1) Getting Covid helps protect vaccinated people.
2) Getting Covid is fully justified by the aggregate benefit to the community, and any individual harms caused by the infection are acceptable collateral damage.
So, what’s the difference? You can’t say the relative risk of harm from the injections is lower than risks from Covid infection. LONG TERM RISKS FROM THE INJECTIONS ARE UNKNOWN. There is literally no possible way to compare the risks. We just don’t have the data. So comparative risk analysis CANNOT be the way to distinguish the two policies. At best, all you can say is the risks are equally unknown, making the two options equivalent.
Once you reject comparative risk analysis, what other rationale can explain why an employer couldn’t just make infections mandatory?
🔥 Another question I have about the widely-discredited theory that uninjected people pose a risk to injected people is, if the injections prevent severe illness and death as claimed, what exactly IS the risk? Having a bad cold? Is preventing injected people from possibly getting a bad cold the entire justification for mandates?
💉 Dr. Harvey Risch, Professor of Epidemiology at Yale University, gave several interviews recently. A Pulse of Israel reporter asked him, “should vaccinated be afraid of the unvaccinated?”
RISCH: “No, I’d put it the other way around. The unvaccinated should be afraid of the vaccinated … it is well-known that it is the vaccinated people that generate the mutant strains and not the unvaccinated people. And that corruption of the medical establishment saying the unvaccinated are generating the mutants is an absolute falsehood; it is exactly the opposite. This has been known for a hundred years. It is vaccinated people that are more prone to generate mutant strains.”
Similarly, in a separate interview, Mark Levin asked Risch, “If you’re a parent and have a 7 or 8 year old … what would you do? Would you get your kid vaccinated?”
RISCH: “If the child has chronic conditions that make their risk appreciable, then there’s a reason they should be considered for vaccination. Other than that, if it were my child, I would homeschool them. Honestly, I would organize with other parents, to take them out of the school, and create homeschooling environments. There’s no choice. Your child’s life is on the line. It’s not a high risk. Vaccination is not a high risk that’s going to kill every child by doing so. However it’s enough of a risk that on the average the benefit is higher from homeschooling than it is for vaccination and being in school.”
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Much more at the links…
~Easy
Along the same lines, I came across this:
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David Lee (CTh0
October 26, 2021 4:17 pm
At the age of 74, my probability of death in the next year from COVID is about half of .00715 judging by the chart.
Without the COVID pandemic, my probability of death in the next year from all causes = .03138
If COVID killed 74-year-olds entirely at random, then the chance of dying of COVID would simply be added to the chance without the COVID pandemic (for a rough estimate.) So my chance of dying in the next year would be about .035 instead of .03138. But COVID usually kills people who are teetering on the edge of the grave with other health problems. So the actual increase in probability of death due to COVID is much less than that for a 74-year-old of average health like me. What is the probability of death if I get the shot? I cannot find a reliable estimate of that. I do know that my brother was sick for a week and is still suffering adverse effects from his first shot. He wisely refuses to get the second shot, and his faith in the medical profession has taken a nose-dive, like mine has.