God forbid you should actually investigate a matter before coming up with dumb conspiracy theories.
You know, this place used to be full of smart people.
Maybe the 25th was invoked already, just not yet made public.
VP not in chain of command....................
I’d give her the middle fingered salute.
Military should salute. Secret Service agents have been manning the stairs of AF2 lately for Harris. They do not salute.
Two nights ago, around 1 AM, the WH lights were blazing on (normally off at 11 PM for the night), with lots of black SUVs and suspected medical vehicles as well.
There’s a ton of pictures on the interwebs of military saluting Mike Pence.
Il Duce Kamala wants the ole Heil Hitler.
The VP doesn’t rate a salute.
Saluting the VP would be like saluting the Speaker of the House. Both people are in the presidential line of succession. But neither person is in the military chain of command. So no salutes for them.
But since we now live in a banana republic, I guess anything goes.
Kamala aka Il Douchebag.
The VP doesn’t rate a salute.
A military member may salute anyone.
God forbid you should actually investigate a matter before coming up with dumb conspiracy theories.
You know, this place used to be full of smart people.
I seem to recall Eisenhower and other presidents up to Reagan never RETURNING a military salute. Eisenhower was a real general and understood and valued military protocol and, although he was the Commander in Chief, he was a civilian as proscribed by the Constitution. And civilians do not return a military salute.
I loved Reagan but he started a bad tradition.
Yes they salute the VP. There are pictures of Pence being saluted, and probably other VPs as well.
Not required per AR 600-25 but it has been my experience (28+ YOS) that most service members do not read the regulations and only follow the leader or go on hearsay. This goes for the command structure as well.
Para 2-1 and sub chapters cover this subject.
Cannot blame the enlisted because they were most likely directed from Senior NCO’s or Commissioned to render the salute. This is what happens when you have morons being lead by morons.
Years ago, pre 9/11, I borrowed my brothers jeep. He’s a USMC 0-6. As I drove in to Quantico every enlisted person was saluting the Jeep because of a sticker on the window.
I think those stickers are gone now.
Protocol is covered in the US Army (other branches have similar regulations) by regulation 600-25, Chapter 2. It calls for the officers, warrants and enlisted to salute, the President to be saluted, with the more senior rank receiving the salute initiated by the junior rank. The regulation is silent on personal saluting the VP.
Chapter 3 covers the protocol for a cannon salute and does include various ranks and specifically mentions the VP.
So a bit of a grey area. The reg says VP is entitled to a cannon salute when visiting a military installation but does not say anything regarding hand salutes. The general rule taught in basic is ... when in doubt, whip it out. You can’t get in trouble for saluting when not required.
You salute any rank higher up the chain of command. The VP is (unfortunately in this case) part of the chain of command.
At least, that’s what my memory tells me, but I’ve been out 30 years now.