Posted on 10/08/2021 6:51:22 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
Yes they salute the VP. There are pictures of Pence being saluted, and probably other VPs as well.
Not required per AR 600-25 but it has been my experience (28+ YOS) that most service members do not read the regulations and only follow the leader or go on hearsay. This goes for the command structure as well.
Para 2-1 and sub chapters cover this subject.
Cannot blame the enlisted because they were most likely directed from Senior NCO’s or Commissioned to render the salute. This is what happens when you have morons being lead by morons.
I can’t resist telling you a little story that I’ve just told the Marine guard at the embassy. The story has to do with saluting. I was a second lieutenant of horse cavalry back in the World War II days. As I told the admiral, I wound up flying a desk for the Army Air Force. And so, I know all the rules about not saluting in civilian clothes and so forth, and when you should or shouldn’t. But then when I got this job and I would be approaching Air Force One or Marine One and those Marines would come to a salute and I — knowing that I am in civilian clothes — I would nod and say hello and think they could drop their hand, and they wouldn’t. They just stood there. So, one night over at the commandant’s quarters, Marine commandant’s quarters in Washington, and I was getting a couple of highballs, and I didn’t know what to do with them. So, I said to the commandant — I said, “Look, I know all the rules about saluting in civilian clothes and all, but if I am the commander in chief, there ought to be a regulation that would permit me to return a salute.” And I heard some words of wisdom. He said, “I think if you did, no one would say anything”.......Ronald Reagan 1986
https://taskandpurpose.com/mandatory-fun/vice-president-kamala-harris-salute/
That’s a great story, thanks! I never heard it explained like that. Gotta love the Gipper!👍
Years ago, pre 9/11, I borrowed my brothers jeep. He’s a USMC 0-6. As I drove in to Quantico every enlisted person was saluting the Jeep because of a sticker on the window.
I think those stickers are gone now.
Y’all act like there’s an infallible order out there where every proper action is written down and every deviation from it is evil. Truth is the president could direct the military to salute squirrels with their left hands tomorrow and so long as it’s not illegal and the troops don’t rebel, it’s gonna happen, and the next time they revise the D&C code (and there are officers all the time doing nothing but looking at revising various regs), it might get updated to include it
The famed Green Berets were out of uniform when they performed some demonstrations for JFK in the early 1960s. They just thought the hat looked cool. JFK didn’t ask why they were out of uniform so they got to keep it and the regs got updated to allow it. Stuff like this is how personal preferences, superstitions, bad logic, and traditions get encoded into regs.
I am ambivalent if the CIC was prior service. Jerks like klintoon, barry and the current resident never rated a salute because they never served.
My #24 was merely explaining to FReeper Mick RR’s stated reason for saluting.
For me, saluting in mufty just never sits right....but that’s just me, I’m old school.
Would you include Trump in that as well?
Protocol is covered in the US Army (other branches have similar regulations) by regulation 600-25, Chapter 2. It calls for the officers, warrants and enlisted to salute, the President to be saluted, with the more senior rank receiving the salute initiated by the junior rank. The regulation is silent on personal saluting the VP.
Chapter 3 covers the protocol for a cannon salute and does include various ranks and specifically mentions the VP.
So a bit of a grey area. The reg says VP is entitled to a cannon salute when visiting a military installation but does not say anything regarding hand salutes. The general rule taught in basic is ... when in doubt, whip it out. You can’t get in trouble for saluting when not required.
Remember odumbo's first attempt? He looked like Benny Hill saluting.
But he never served, and that was your criteria.
You salute any rank higher up the chain of command. The VP is (unfortunately in this case) part of the chain of command.
At least, that’s what my memory tells me, but I’ve been out 30 years now.
VP stands for Villianous Pu—y. That is why the salute.
The VP is (unfortunately in this case) part of the chain of command.
——-
VP is NOT in the chain of command.
But it’s always allowable to salute as a sign of respect.
Key word is “required”. I may be all wet but as I understand it regulations are concerned with minimal saluting requirements ie: making sure that enlisted personnel salute officers under designated circumstances and that they return the salute. But I don’t believe there are limits to who may be saluted. Enlisted personnel are directed to “hand salute” in formation all kinds of dignitaries, foreign and domestic, so to salute the current holder of the office of the vice presidency is, in my opinion, appropriate even if distasteful.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.