Posted on 10/02/2021 7:55:51 AM PDT by Enlightened1
This is just political masturbation.
We can’t even make school boards work. Conservatives suck at enemy identification. We’ve made this mess by feeding hoards of tapeworms with our taxes. People vote for “safety nets” which mean crooked government and then act all surprised that government is crooks.
If you’re not even going to clean up the mess in your own state, then talk of secession is just an escapist fantasy.
Turnabout is fair play.
All the Yankee absolutists on FR go on with that constant refrain. Not just that “Confederacy = slavery = evil = 100% wrong”, but that “secession is unconstitutional” and was “proven” because Yankees won.
I’ve been saying all along the best conclusion is to agree on secession and split it up. Let the commies develop their paradise while we live in peace (including, no riots!).
Not fond of “Dem vs Rep states, that would be too convoluted. More of an agreement on the geographical split.
“Who would secede, and how does it work?”
Therein lies just one of many problems. The major cities are democrat controlled. The dem infestation runs deep. Few if any politicians are calling for secession. Conservatives can’t even control a party much less a country. It is a pipe dream.
We’d have to move.
But I prefer agreement on splitting up the country geometrically.
Some will have to move. Big deal. Whining about that when millions of people left on ships across oceans to come here is spoiled.
Texas could and should secede.
Shows how all that unconstitutional welfare largesse makes it impossible also to extricate oneself from the mess, eh? Was that by design? Or just a fortunate side effect for our masters?
Conservatives will have to FIGHT their way to a ‘divorce’ as the main driver for Leftists now is to PUNISH conservatives for wanting to keep the country as it is. And it’s hard to punish people when they are part of another country...so they will do everything in their power (and they have a lot of power now) to PREVENT states like Texas from leaving...like it not.
one side splits it and the other side chooses which piece to take ... flip a coin to see who splits and who chooses ...
Precisely.
Look at the “county” electoral map.
It’s a sea of red, with a few splotches of blue thrown in, overwhelmingly in the metro areas of the country.
And it’s my guess that most of those “red” areas conduct their elections on the up-and-up, unlike the big cities.
I’ve heard proposals for “city states” talked about sometimes.
In such proposals, New York City, and its suburban counties, would become a separate state.
The same could happen with Los Angeles County becoming its own state. And Cook County with Chicago being its own state.
The argument is that these places have more population than many other states. And politically, if these cities were no longer part of the states they dominate, then the remainder of those states would be able to elect more conservatives to office.
Just like they are leaving the Big 12 for the SEC.
You are absolutely correct. There are no blue states only blue cities that control states that would otherwise be red. And honestly I believe most blue cities are blue due to rampant fraud. Fix the fraud and you fix the country.
I have often thought the electoral college should extended down to county level. This would give the massive land area of say CA a chance at representation outside of LA and SF. The electoral college should apply to all voting inside the state as well. Gun control? Put it to the people with each county acting like a state in an electoral system. These blue states and all their nonsensical rules would disappear.
What is the Federal Bureaucracy (aka Deep State)? It is the $3 trillion 80%+ unconstitutional portion of the federal government making the feds essentially totalitarian.
Let’s not say that Biden is “right” because he chooses to advance the utter tyranny of the feds.
Let’s do whatever we can to OVERTURN the fraudulent 2020 election, dismantle the unconstitutional portion of the feds, and RESTORE our Free Constitutional Republic.
No need really. Remove the seditionists and subversives from social media, break up their monopolies and the problem will take care of itself in short order.
“ Oh wait, we can’t secede from the Union. That’s treason!”
A good thing our Founding Father’s thought the same way.
The key to their takeover was conquering the education system. They brainwash our children into hating the country and turn them out like virus. Until this is changed there can be no victory.
we are not there yet. the first candidate that runs on a secession platform and wins will be the opening shot.
“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
OK. And the other thing is, we don’t need to have it finish NOW. It could all be set up in treaty to gradually move away, or at least a date well in the future by which every logistical government affairs with individuals and states, etc, has to be complete.
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