An Infectious Disease Doctor Explains Why Some Of His Colleagues Are Quitting In The Face Of Vaccine Mandates

Forbes ^ | Sep 29, 2021 | Stephen Thomas

[definitelynotaliberal]

Hospital staff in New York State have to prove they are vaccinated against Covid this week or face losing their jobs. It is possible hundreds of employees will refuse to be vaccinated and resign their positions. Earlier this week, Northwell Health fired two dozen employees for not complying with the vaccine mandate, according to Newsday. Environmental and food service professionals, nurses, medical technicians, and physicians are all prepared to quit.

As an infectious diseases physician and researcher involved in Covid vaccine trials, I am often questioned by both the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Many of the vaccinated are baffled, unable to understand why their unvaccinated colleagues are so intractable. I don’t propose to understand why every individual would forfeit their job instead of getting vaccinated, but I have observed some common threads.

“The vaccines were made too fast and are not safe.”

As I have written previously, the Covid vaccine development process was fast for three main reasons:

[Gene Eric]

The medical community is cult.

Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Big Hospitals, and the lock-step doctors extorting hard-earned money from the commodity of taxpaying citizens.

[M1911A1]

Why now? Because I said so, said the free person.

[SeekAndFind]

Look at this statement from the article:

The breakthrough infection issue is not an issue of vaccine performance, but one of expectation mismanagement. The majority of vaccines are not designed to prevent infection, or even prevent mild disease, they are designed to address a public health threat.

If this is the case, the CDC, Fauci and the FDA should be making this statement FRONT AND CENTER to everyone BEFORE they take the vaccines. With this, the vaccine mandates are useless. The vaccinated are not guaranteed to NOT be infected and in fact are harboring the false idea that they will not be infecting other people.

[SeekAndFind]

FROM THE ARTICLE:

Even in the states with the highest rates of hospitalization and death among vaccinated people, unvaccinated people still make up more than 95% of the hospital admissions and Covid- related deaths.

Is this a fact?

[tinamina]

I started to read it and decided it was propaganda.

[SeekAndFind]

FROM THE ARTICLE:

“If unvaccinated health care workers walk off the job it will place a temporary burden on hospital administration and their vaccinated colleagues who stay to “hold the line.”

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He is trying to say, in effect ( albeit as politely as possible ), those who do not take the vaccine are selfish SOBS who abandoned their essential position like a soldier abandons his post to leave his fellow soldiers to fight.

[Flick Lives]

The bulk of this article is straight out propaganda from the CDC website. Nowhere do they address the inordinate rates of adverse reactions including elevated rates of myocarditis in teenage boys given the Covid shot.

[stanne]

“I started to read it and decided it was propaganda.“

I skimmed it. I’ve done medical reasearch papers so it was a quick read. It was very wordy and too long

But the gist is, I’ve heard less BS from patients in the methadone clinic.

[fireman15]

Even in the states with the highest rates of hospitalization and death among vaccinated people, unvaccinated people still make up more than 95% of the hospital admissions and Covid- related deaths.

Sorry, not buying it. This may have been the case before the “Delta Variant become the dominant strain. But things have changed and the good doctor is now just plain full of bullsh@t. The “vaccines” have completely lost their efficacy against the strain that now makes up more than 95% of cases. Every time a doctor lies about facts that are easy to check up on... more people start tuning them out. This guy is lying has a$$ off and it is sickening.

[PGR88]

Why should people trust the vaccine? Everything from “public health officials” since the start of the pandemic has been a constantly shifting narrative of lies and political pandering.

From the usefulness of lockdowns, to Fauci’s and the CDC’s constantly shifting narrative about masks, social distancing, and potential for herd immunity, have been in constant flux.

We have seen America’s elites, in steady succession, dismiss the lab leak theory, use controlled media to persecute those who spoke of it, only to then move to acceptance of it.

These same people attack the use of HQC, invermectin, and other unconventional treatments, without even addressing the obvious fact that such treatments have been used by tens, or even hundreds of millions around the world.

Its absolutely rational then for ordinary people do not trust any vaccine offered by these same politicians and “public health officials.”

[SeekAndFind]

FROM THE ARTICLE:

“But the enduring impact will be on the communities who rely on their medical institutions to care for them. Hospitals diverting patients to other hospitals, long wait times in the emergency room, no elective surgeries, and dangerously overworked staff will impact clinical care and patients will do poorly.”

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Riddle me this Dr. Thomas ... BEFORE the vaccines were given emergency use and during the first 10 months of the pandemic in 2020, why were these very same healthcare workers NOT abandoning their posts? Weren’t they celebrated as heroes just 9 months ago? Now, you are calling them selfish bastards ( OK, you didn’t say it but you might as well say it ). If the fear is there would not be enough Hospital workers, Why can’t the status quo be maintained?

[One4Life]

I started to read it and decided it was propaganda.

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You are correct. This is definitely propaganda. Ignores the facts, and goes with the party-line.

[Track9]

Dylan’s sentiment could equally be a very anti abortion argument but I don’t ever hear it used in support of the unborn so personally, I smell a rat. And what about the discussion of natural immunity? Conveniently left out.
What about Israel as a glaring case of “maybe we don’t exactly know what’s going on.” What about the Swiss…

[One4Life]

The thing is those refusing the jab are not “walking off” - they are being forced out against their will. Big big difference. The author is laying guilt at the feet of the victims. So disgusting.

[The Duke]

"If the theory was plausible, both vaccinated and naturally infected women would be at risk of infertility."

How is the above not an admission that the vaccine and the virus are two sides of the same coin?

[grey_whiskers]

The majority of vaccines are not designed to prevent infection, or even prevent mild disease, they are designed to address a public health threat.

DAFUQ?

[Skepolitic]

“Expectation management” is a euphemism for having been caught repeatedly in lies.

Fauci and other covid cult leaders have lied over and over again for the past 20 months. Why on earth would any sane adult believe them now?

[ThunderSleeps]

You hear people say mRNA technology is brand new, you hear people claim we've been working with it 30 years. Both are right, it is a matter of perspective. Scientists have been experimenting with it since the early 1980s for disease control. It wasn't until much later that the possibility of using it for vaccines was explored. As late as 2010 it was experimented with, but was too difficult, too expensive to put into widespread use. As late as 2015 Moderna was still focused on trying to use mRNA technology for disease cures.

By 2020 Moderna had 9 candidate mRNA drugs in initial testing, with only 1 approved for phase 2 testing. Then came covid. Moderna literally prepared their vaccine in days from getting the covid gene sequence to target. Their covid vaccine is the first and only time their mRNA technology has been put to widespread use.

Let that sink in for a minute.

Days.

See https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

I don't know whether to think "H**l yeah, this is going to usher in a new era of fighting diseases!" Or "{Expletive}! What the {expletive} were they thinking!?"

The takeaway is, mRNA technology has never before been past phase 2 of drug trials. It is now in phase 3 in the form of the covid vaccines. Not on maybe 30,000 to 40,000 people for 5 or 10 years...on 100,000,000 or more in the US alone. We have less than 9 months of historical data. (*)

mRNA looks to be the breakthrough technology of our lifetimes. Now that billions of dollars have been thrown at it and the final (?) kinks worked out... It should be only a matter of a few years to adapt the technology to target any proteins, etc. in the cells and bend them to our will. Cancer? Take a biopsy, get the gene sequence, build an mRNA kill-shot for it and disable it's ability to reproduce. Done. No more serious than a sinus infection...

But... That assumes there are no hidden gotcha's lurking with the technology. Does the mRNA get damaged, can the cells mis-interpret the instructions, go off on their own. Does it over-stimulate the immune system...and probably a whole host of other subtle and not-so-subtle things that need to be figured out.

It could be great, or if we accidentally give 50 million people Lupis or early onset Alzheimer's it could set it back a decade. We are rolling the dice as a society, with no basis for even guessing at the odds on the table.

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(*) We don't really have useful data anymore on the initial trial participants. So no, we don't have a year plus of data on the people in the first trial. Why? Because the moment they got emergency use authorization from the FDA, they went to the control group -- the 18,000 or so people in the trial that had gotten the placebo shot -- and offered them the real thing. After all, covid is this big bad scary thing, they wanted to offer protection to everyone, right? Apparently all but a relative handful opted for the real shot. Well now we no-longer have a well studied control group that doesn't have the vaccine. No group to compare to for rates of occurrence of various conditions. No idea if the vaccine is enhancing or suppressing various things, or a non-factor. We're starting over again as of roughly March of 2021 when vaccination rates really took off. Now we can simply compare vaxxed vs unvaxxed in the general population.

We are effectively in month 6 of phase 3 of the trial, which should go on for another 5 years or so. So when someone claims the vax is safe for everyone, they are ignorant and/or lying. There is no factual basis, no data to support such an assertion. It is a guess, a hope. So is buying a lottery ticket.

The only thing we can assert is that it is not immediately detrimental except to a very small percentage of people. Apparently it is very bad news for some. Exactly how many is hard to know since so many entities are working to conceal any negative information about the vaccines. But reason tells us there are people dying from the vax, people suffering long term, even permanent disability from it. No drug, no treatment in history has ever been universally tolerated. There are always "Don't take xyz if you are pdq..." caveats and "contraindications" in med-speak. The covid vaccines are no different. They are killing people, they are rendering people disabled. Guaranteed. Are the rates significant? Don't know, we're in phase 3, finding out the hard way, large-scale.

[Secret Agent Man]

I’ve heard less bs from the average modern american woman.

Now that’s saying something.