~~~Keep throwing around that term, “vaxcrackpot” and yet talk about free exchange of information? Doesn’t help with free exchange of information or opinions...If you disagree with Dr. Cole, how about you tell us why? How about you provide some links to support your opinion?
~~~I kiddingly asked if you had an issue with him, because your attacks make no logical sense and are backed by nothing...
~~~Again, you did not address HIS credentials...And they are solid as are those of Dr. Kory, Dr. Marik, Dr. Malone, and others.
What “credentials” do I need, exactly? Are you checking papers, voting registration?
~~~Again nice hyperbole—I said you don’t need to answer any questions, and I know you have no creds or you would have posted links...So, no, I am not checking your papers—but your posting history indicates you have some deal with Dr. Cole in particular and vaccines in general...So yeah, I wonder.
My position on mandates has been stated
~~~Please, I think conservatives are all over the map on mandates...I am not sure what “any other conservative’s” means...Frankly the “conservatives” in leadership have been pretty quiet regarding mandates and how they are impacting people losing their livelihoods if they choose to exercise liberty.
and it’s the same as any other conservative’s, but it won’t matter because I’ve seen people here who say they’re pro-vax & anti-mandate called liars. It’s not just the mandates. It’s hostility toward anyone who doesn’t go along with anti-vax nonsense. Yall want tolerance one way. That tells me that the loudest people who are trying to force pro-vax people into silence feel threatened.
~~~Hostility? Maybe if you did not use terms like “vaxcrackpot” less perceived hostility...Seems you are triggering the hostility...and yet you don’t back it up with links? Actual information if you want the free exchange...
~~~You should not feel threatened. You are on the side of the administration...You complied. Initially, I thought if most people get vaxxed, perhaps I could just wait and see how that works out...maybe get vaxxed, maybe not...But now the administration is using the vax as a cudgel against the unvaxxed...mandate or not...The unvaxxed are now becoming second class citizens...yet illegals can traverse and seed the country freely...Sad you don’t see it. As I stated, I am far more concerned about the future of the country because of the vaccines and the push for more mandates... (Since many took the jab, they are now in the system and are compliant. So easy to control and monitor) Maybe that is why I and others are passionate about “vaxcrackpots” who are willing to buck the system—especially since they actually provide medical support for their positions.
~~~Yall? (Assuming a typo coming from a Virginian?) I am tolerant—But as was the case in 2015 (eh you were not here, but quite a kerfuffle), there are people activating accounts from years ago and newcomers that an old curmudgeon like me questions...I did not attack you, I asked questions, and I said you did not need to answer. Just interesting that you landed here in the middle of the vaccine/mandate debate that is engulfing the country...and nearly all your posts are pro-vaccine/blasting anti-vax.
~~~The government-approved social media sites such as Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, etc. are full of pro-vax doctors and articles...FR is one of the few places that alternative views an be posted. And YOU feel you are being oppressed/harassed/attacked?
~~~Uh you clearly have a biased view...As another Freeper put it to me, there are plenty of tarnished halos on both sides...Sorry, there are. But then you are new, so how would you really know?
Free exchange of information is great, but so are opinions on the merit of that information. And when people are going around saying take vitamin C and crap out the Covid, or breathe vinegar fumes and the virus will be killed, that’s nutcase stuff. It’s dangerous. God gave us brains to figure it out.
~~~Hyperbole...Please show me posts...medical links for your position...How about ONE post about Vit. C crapping out the virus or breathing vinegar fumes...I have ever heard this nor have I ever seen such posts—and again, I have been here a while.
I don’t think we’ll have passports here. People won’t stand for it.
~~~I wish you were correct, but sadly, they are already here in some areas...and why do you think people won’t stand for it...People are standing for all kinds of tyranny...As if they will have a choice...Medical tyrannies will tyranny... Australia? Canada? Italy?
Now see, “get vaxxed with infinite boosters” isn’t good faith discussion. You’re assuming a lot. Really, we are down 9 months and already Booster #1. Israel #2...
My husband had a routine doctor appointment today, and his physician said he doesn’t recommend boosters. Nor do several virologists I follow on Twitter. Antibodies naturally wane and T-cells step in. I’m not taking health instruction from the government.
~~Infinite boosters...Actually it is good faith and it is true...Do a search on Dr. David Martin...he has videos of Pharma execs talking about profits/boosters, etc. (years ago). I have a friend whose elderly mother is in assisted living and who was told in March or April that she was scheduled for a booster in the fall...And who was talking about boosters back in March or April? No one. Yet, voila here we are...Boosters for those over 65...Initially, I did not think this was a plandemic, but now I do.
~~~Glad your husband has a doctor not recommending—tho I don’t know the age of your husband...And it is only a matter of time before CDC or administration recommends boosters for all...Fauci wants it...it will happen...and sadly it likely will include kids...part of that people will stand for it...As I have family in medical field, I have seen how the government line is being pushed and the trials/data are questionable..
Bottom line, get the shot or not, it’s up to you. Do I hope you’ll get it? Yes (imo your grandchild doesn’t need it). I know what Covid can do, and it’s not something you can just keep at bay with vitamins or daily walks.
~~~I am aware. As NO ONE knows the LONG TERM EFFECTS of these experimental gene therapies, I have no plans to get the vax...(Initially, I was planning to do so). However, as I have researched and confirmed with my family members in healthcare (PhD who does data analysis for pharmaceutical company and another w/MS in progress in infection control), I believe I am making the smart decision for me—and it involves more than “crapping out virus with vitamin C” (waiting for that post). I only need to look to India vs. Israel to make smart decisions without taking an experimental jab for which the pharmaceutical company has no liability. We don’t know the long term effects...We just don’t...Perhaps you are aware of Fen Fen and Thalidomide debacles...Or search Veritas to see J&J personnel not getting their own jab...Even the Gov’t is not making Congressional staff take the jab, nor the post office...CDC does not require...Tell you anything?
You do not want this virus.
~~~On that we certainly agree...And I have taken steps to avoid getting it...If you had been here before July 2021, you would know I posted about someone who spent 8 weeks in ICU and nearly died with standard CDC/Fauci-approved protocols which provided NO early intervention—prayers are what helped them—not Remdesivir and oxygen). However, there are protocols that prevent or mitigate...And I wish non-medical newcomers who present no links would stop attacking medical PROFESSONALS who will put everything they hold dear on the line to provide what they believe to be a truthful data set and effective protocols...
But it’’s your decision. And thank you.
~~~Yep—it is, and I wish you well with yours.
Your thoughtful posts are the lifeblood of a forum such as this. Keep on, keeping on!!
Vax crackpot, yes, and I will continue to use the term if the shoe fits. Do you ever research these sources at all or just decide they’re legit because they tell you what you want to hear? I posted a link a couple of days ago but it wasn’t functional so I assume there’s a learning curve there, as well. Regardless, his credentials, his education, are irrelevant. His anti-vax kookery is.
“I know you have no creds”—-because I’m new and therefore suspicious? And not spouting stuff about poison shots? Idk what to tell you, then. I do have a “deal” with anti-vaxxers and I find it amazing that 21st century conservatives believe vaccines are a bad thing.
Show me a conservative who’s in favor of mandates.
Lol, you think I feel threatened? By what, text on an IPhone screen? I wasn’t talking about me. As for “complying” by getting the shot, part of the problem is that you’ve allowed the left to dictate your thoughts, responses, and entire viewpoint. They went off the deep end with the mask fetish and Fauci worship, so you went too far in the other direction. Liberals love masks? Then the vaccine must be bad, I don’t trust it! It’s just a vaccine for a virus. It’s that simple. Not everything is political, or in this case, both sides have politicized something that isn’t. I decided to cut through all of that BS
If you’re passionate about crackpots simply because they “buck the system” while ignoring their lunacy then yes, the country is absolutely done because the people who used to be thinkers have tossed their minds aside in favor of feelings and emotion. Exactly like the left.
I don’t understand what “a typo from a Virginian” means, but as far as me posting mostly on the vaccine topic, yeah it looks like I have so far. Is that something else I’m supposed to check in about? Not gonna happen. Back up with the hall monitor act.
Never been to Twitter, have you? There’s more anti vax activity there than here. And no, I don’t feel oppressed or attacked. Intimidation doesn’t work with me. I was speaking about @BeauBo being harassed into silence.
Take Vitamin C until you get diarrhea https://twitter.com/timothywjohnson/status/1286298621735047170?s=21
There was a thread on here with a Covid patient asking for advice. Someone said boil vinegar and breathe the steam, it kills the virus in your throat. Not the first time I’ve seen that quackery.
Sounds to me like you’ve given up and decided to be a victim re:passports. Your choice, I guess. Or maybe you just want to argue with everything I say, lol.
Oh good Lord, Fauci isn’t in control of anything. I couldn’t give a damn what he wants. At the same time, I won’t kneejerk into an emotional reaction. You sound totally beaten down and that’s sad.
It’s really weird, because none of the med profs in my family are being dictated to. They prescribe based on what they think is best for the patient. My husband’s doctor is a Libertarian. He said he lost 9 patients to Covid last week, all unvaccinated. The local hospital couldn’t accept a heart attack case because there’s no room.
Here’s the difference. You attack the vast majority of medical professionals who don’t reinforce your POV. I attack the small minority of quacks and crackpots.
Okay, again with the newcomer stuff. I’m beginning to see that y’all are insular to the point of really not wanting new members, right? I mean seriously. It’s like “how dare you sign up here” lol.