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I’ve sailed on 7 cruises in North America and Europe in the last few months; here are 8 things I’ve learned
The Points Guy ^ | 9/18/2021 | Gene Sloan

Posted on 09/19/2021 5:40:17 PM PDT by Capt. Tom

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To: Capt. Tom

Thanks for posting.

It pretty much confirms what I had imagined it would be like to be a regular voyager on the seas.

While I have enjoyed my many cruises over the years, I think I will continue to wait it out until some sense of sanity returns in this world.

I have remarked that the world we are living in today is much like the 1930’s when countries were in the midst of threats of world wars. And then Germany and Japan ‘released the Kraken’.


21 posted on 09/19/2021 6:29:31 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Chauncey Gardiner

If you pay good money for recreation, it should be what _you_ want it to be, not what they want it to be.

No travel for me until the stupid rules are gone—every last one of them.


22 posted on 09/19/2021 6:31:33 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Capt. Tom

Bookmarked


23 posted on 09/19/2021 6:34:19 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Capt. Tom

Can you recommend a river cruise?


24 posted on 09/19/2021 6:39:31 PM PDT by grumpa
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To: SamAdams76

I cruise to meet amazing people from all over the world and make new and long lasting friends. I won’t do check point charlie to do it.


25 posted on 09/19/2021 6:41:22 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: George from New England
Agreed. Just this weekend we've been jamming 50,000+ into football stadiums all across America with no masks and social distancing. It's ludicrous to treat cruise ships like it's March of 2020.

It's over. People need to get back to living their lives.

26 posted on 09/19/2021 6:41:31 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 294 days away from outliving Andrew Gold)
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To: Capt. Tom

How much are the cruise lines paying you to ensure this?


27 posted on 09/19/2021 6:45:42 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Bobalu

They still sell Jiffy Pop. I used to take it on camping trips, and still get it for little ones as a New Years Eve treat.


28 posted on 09/19/2021 6:46:56 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: GaryCrow
snipped... In just about every case I'm treated like a criminal just for daring to fly an airplane into their country delivering things THEY need and taking their high dollar products out. It's long since gotten old being harassed for doing my job.....

Can you imagine the chaos after flying to a location when a travelling companion, vaccinated or unvaccinated, is not allowed to board a cruise ship because of a positive covid test.

Since different countries have different rules, I could see that person or possibly both people ending up in some type of local Quarantine. -Tom

29 posted on 09/19/2021 6:53:36 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -TomIncluding the Biden roup thfrshing o)
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To: Capt. Tom

Interesting article. We’re not cruising yet. Hope things get better.


30 posted on 09/19/2021 6:56:51 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta ( )
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
“And then Germany and Japan ‘released the Kraken’.“

😂That was funny I couldn’t stop laughing!

31 posted on 09/19/2021 6:57:39 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Capt. Tom; entropy12

Thanks Capt. Tom.

Entropy, *PING* of likely interest to you.


32 posted on 09/19/2021 7:02:45 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ((The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.))
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To: GaryCrow

Where have you gone that isn’t insane with totalitarian control disease (TCD). Seems the USA will be ruled by TCD forever. I would like to think there is an escape plan.


33 posted on 09/19/2021 7:11:02 PM PDT by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrative)
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To: grumpa
Can you recommend a river cruise?

I don't do them, but a close friend goes yearly on the American Queen Steamship Co. paddlewheeler cruise ships in this country.

He and his wife really enjoy those various river cruises. -Tom

34 posted on 09/19/2021 7:11:58 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -)
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To: Capt. Tom

Before Covid, I was a regular cruise columnist for the FoxNews.com website. I wrote over 110 articles for FoxNews and foxbusiness.com. I know Gene Sloan well (he once suggested I got him his job with USA Today). The circle of cruise journalists is a pretty small one and we have traveled on the same cruises probably a couple of dozen times.

Unfortunately, my journalistic outlets for cruise articles are not as avid as what Gene has found.

I also enjoy the cruise experience and have been on probably 200 of them (lost count). I even worked aboard ships in the 80s and 90s for almost 2 years.

In any case, it is sad but true that mostly for non-cruisers, cruise ships have a reputation for being breeding grounds for viruses. This is not a complete fallacy either, especially with some of the pre-COVID practices they used like buffets, arena shows, bars, and casinos.

The biggest challenge however is overcoming the memory of Diamond Princess which was one of the first COVID hotbeds in the world, sailing in Japan where the health minister made the mistake of forcing the ill to remain on the ship but not necessarily sequestered in their rooms. The C19 onboard spread far faster than any virus anyone had ever seen before and for a month it was in the news every day.

Honestly, if we had a vaccine that worked we all might be back to normal already, but the vaccines do not work, there are breakthrough cases, and those people are more likely to be asymptomatic carriers.

I miss cruise travel, but without the people watching and with even more red tape than ever, I fear it will be quite a while before the industry is back to normal - barring a miracle of course.

FYI: My name is Paul Motter and I was the editor of CruiseMates.com.


35 posted on 09/19/2021 7:21:40 PM PDT by pottermaul
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Where have you gone that isn’t insane with totalitarian control disease (TCD). Seems the USA will be ruled by TCD forever.

Believe it or not, the US is one of the more sane places right now with regards to lockdowns. Most of Asia is just crazy, they're locked down tighter than a drum. Australia has to take the cake for craziest. France has opened up some recently but only if you have a vaccine card, you have to show it everywhere to get in. Germany and the Netherlands aren't too bad, at least you can get out of the hotel.

I live in Florida and it's so refreshing to get home, it's like it's the only sane place on the planet right now.

36 posted on 09/19/2021 7:40:23 PM PDT by GaryCrow
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To: pottermaul

Thank you.


37 posted on 09/19/2021 8:10:02 PM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. STILL)
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To: pottermaul
Honestly, if we had a vaccine that worked we all might be back to normal already, but the vaccines do not work, there are breakthrough cases, and those people are more likely to be asymptomatic carriers.

I miss cruise travel, but without the people watching and with even more red tape than ever, I fear it will be quite a while before the industry is back to normal - barring a miracle of course.

I am one of the most injected and vaccinated people on the planet, but am right now at 86, and with plenty of comorbidities, unvaccinated, because I cannot find a vaccine or experimental drug that actually works against covid.

As far as the cruise lines making an economic recovery , I don't see it happening now, as the economic drain has gone on for too long, and the discrimination of vaxed and unvaxed will take a future economic toll, as will the covid prevention requirements aboard and ashore. -Tom

38 posted on 09/19/2021 8:18:56 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (.It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -)
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To: GaryCrow

Thank God for southern states. FL and many others are sane but federal mandates cause the idiocy.

Thx for the feedback.


39 posted on 09/19/2021 8:54:18 PM PDT by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrative)
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To: GaryCrow

GaryCrow wrote:


“Where have you gone that isn’t insane with totalitarian control disease (TCD). Seems the USA will be ruled by TCD forever.”

Believe it or not, the US is one of the more sane places right now with regards to lockdowns. Most of Asia is just crazy, they’re locked down tighter than a drum. Australia has to take the cake for craziest. France has opened up some recently but only if you have a vaccine card, you have to show it everywhere to get in. Germany and the Netherlands aren’t too bad, at least you can get out of the hotel.

I live in Florida and it’s so refreshing to get home, it’s like it’s the only sane place on the planet right now.”

Many thanks for your eyes-on report !!

I’m in Texas; it’s also sane (except Austin is still wierd).


40 posted on 09/19/2021 9:17:15 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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