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To: Toad of Toad Hall

“ The internet has been readily available to everyone for over 25 years. Just because the data was not input through the internet does not mean it is not available on the internet. 10s if not 100s of millions of doses of flu shots and other vaccines are administered every year. Your problems with the denominator are unfounded.”

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Not nearly as many people get a yearly Flu vaccine as are getting a Covid vaccine.

Many people, including myself assumed VAERS was a reporting system used exclusively by Doctors and/or Facilities, it use to be.

The game changer was opening VAERS to the general public.

The accessible data and reporting availability for VAERS has Not been on-line despite the Internet’s 25 year history.

Even so, 25 years ago most people were still in the exploratory mode with the internet. We really didn’t know where it was going or what it could do.

Some were visionaries like FreeRepublic’s Founder.

I find it interesting you didn’t comment on untrained unknowledgeable people thinking or feeling as if they’re having a vaccine reaction.

You didn’t mention the people making bizarre dramatic claims that go unverified.

Picture VAERS like a Freeway Rest Stop…….anything or anyone can enter and do all manner of things there.

Sleep, eat, use the bathrooms, those are normal things.

Now include the people that take sink baths, solicit for sex, sell drugs, etc.

It’s open to the public, and in all honesty, the public can be pretty damn nasty………..

VAERS is is open to the public too.


31 posted on 09/19/2021 9:14:45 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: David Chase

I personally know liberal types who have had serious illness immediately after getting the second vaxx—and there is _no_ _way_ they would admit their error by reporting it as a side effect.

This is classic garbage in garbage out numbers—confuse far more than they enlighten.

Since the pro-vaxx folks are in favor of censoring their opponents, I must go with the default assumption....the censors are the liars.


39 posted on 09/19/2021 9:20:39 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: David Chase

First, 45% of Americans 6 and over get a flu shot every year:

https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-americans-get-flu-shots-vaccine-cdc/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=ND-Healthcare&gclid=Cj0KCQjwv5uKBhD6ARIsAGv9a-z0bo_OlqDtL8SCBlcKppAzK8nTuRLGDwTKgJiZIzjSY5a5Jc24ElkaArmxEALw_wcB

That would easily eclipse COVID vaccination totals in 2 years.

THAT IS JUST THE FLU SHOT!

Your ‘poetic’ description of people using the reporting system says more about your desire to demagogue the issue than have a real discussion.


47 posted on 09/19/2021 9:30:45 AM PDT by Toad of Toad Hall (nunquam minus solus quam cum solus)
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To: David Chase

Thanks for the insight. Times certainly have changed whe 3 deaths halted Swine flu.

SWINE FLU PROGRAM IS HALTED IN 9 STATES AS 3 DIE AFTER SHOTS

By Harold M. Schmeck Jr. Special to The New York Times
Oct. 13, 1976


55 posted on 09/19/2021 9:50:24 AM PDT by zek157
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To: David Chase

It is almost impossible for the average person to report something on vaers, the vast majority are done by their healthcare providers. Each reported case is investigated, the form itself takes a great deal of time to fill out. Most of the adverse reactions are not reported.

If you want to see an in-depth look at the process, check out this video with a hospitalist.

https://thehighwire.com/videos/these-patients-deserve-to-be-heard-vaers-whistleblower/


91 posted on 09/19/2021 12:53:22 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: David Chase

The description of VAERS reporting by these nurses does not jive with your assertions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obdI7tgKLtA


130 posted on 09/20/2021 5:25:15 PM PDT by Toad of Toad Hall (nunquam minus solus quam cum solus)
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