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I have been trying to remember another withdrawal under circumstances similar to the fiasco in Afghanistan.

The closest that I have come is France's withdrawal from NATO in 1967. But instead of a fiasco, the US military (and other NATO allies) pulled everything that they could from our military bases in France.

I watched my Father go from repairing radar units to driving a truck moving things out of France - in his case, from Metz to any base in Germany that had space.

I remember my Father discussing how he started driving trucks full of equipment, and within a few weeks was driving a flatbed with curbs from the base. Yes, apparently the military decided that since they paid for the concrete curbs they would take them also, out of France!

A functional army is more about logistics than anything else. Can't shoot bullets without the guns and bullets in the right place, at the right time.

Has the US military fallen so far from grace that logistics is no longer taught or implemented? Do the US Army need to fire its logistics coordinators and hire some from the US Navy?

1 posted on 08/31/2021 6:56:16 AM PDT by texas booster
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—and when DeGaulle announced that , some famous American asked him if it included “the American soldiers in graveyards”—


2 posted on 08/31/2021 7:00:17 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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JFK’S Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, was in France in the 60’s when DeGaule decided to pull out of NATO. DeGaule said he wanted all US Military out of France as soon as possible.
Rusk responded, “Does that include those who are buried here?”
DeGaule did not respond.


3 posted on 08/31/2021 7:02:14 AM PDT by HippyLoggerBiker (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake. )
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While I will admit that the challenges of removing ~15 military bases from Afghanistan are much more formidable than removing them from France in the 60’s, it is not like we have known that this day would be coming.

After all, the massive build up of arms and munitions in Afghanistan ramped up tremendously once Bid*n got in office.

Almost like the military-industrial complex decided to sell off old stocks of munitions.

The US government paid for all that stuff. It’s not like a single afghani came from the Afghani’s ...


9 posted on 08/31/2021 7:16:03 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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DeGaulle was nothing but a self-serving blowhard. During the was Ike couldn’t tell him about pending operations as he would demand to take it over.


11 posted on 08/31/2021 7:19:03 AM PDT by ryderann
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bump


14 posted on 08/31/2021 7:45:40 AM PDT by foreverfree
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I remember a BRUTAL political cartoon from that time. It showed De Gaulle standing in front of an American Military Cemetery saying...

“Why do you Americans always stay where you are not wanted?”


17 posted on 08/31/2021 8:14:11 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (30 days! FB jail for mentioning a Monty Python script about tranneys, and the 1936 Olympics.)
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They forgot the part in 1961 where Dulles and his CIA encouraged the Algerian Generals Putsch which De Gaulle was able to put down.


18 posted on 08/31/2021 8:20:12 AM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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You want logistical efficiency? Talk to Wal-Mart


26 posted on 08/31/2021 9:43:49 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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My dad was stationed at Evreux in Nov 1964. Things were so bad then with the french we were forbidden to spend American dollars on the economy. We had to exchange for francs. If caught, it was a serious offense for him.

The local population was very friendly and supportive of Americans. They were close to the invasion fighting and liberation there. When traveling farther away from the channel, to Paris, they became typically arrogant french euroweenies.

My dad got shipped out to Rhine-Main in early Jan 1965 then when we joined him a few weeks later we found out we were being shipped again to High Wycombe England by the end of January. Four different high schools, four different countries in three months. Such was the life of a military family.

31 posted on 08/31/2021 11:54:28 AM PDT by pfflier
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A favorite story about De Gaulle was in WWII just before the invasion of Normandy. De Gaulle kept pushing for more influence in the invasion, and Churchill was pushing back. De Gaulle finally said to Churchill that the French people considered him a Joan of Arc. Churchill replied, “We burned that one.”


32 posted on 09/03/2021 7:13:30 AM PDT by klgator
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