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To: grey_whiskers

actually, you did direct me to the graphene post by number as a matter of fact

my argument on smokers was, nursing home people died first, and they weren’t smokers. Gen pop smokers got covid and died in many cases since most of them have a degree of COPD. Wearing nicotine patches was tossed as junk science, too.

you can go on and on about inactive spike protein fragments in the mRnas or dna vaccines, I can’t wait to see you turn purple over Novavax which IS the spike protein.

Facts is facts
FACT NUMBER 1:
covid is NoT the very first ever spike protein coronavirus ever infecting a human.
229e= common cold
NL63= 5% upper/lower respiratory infections
OC43= another common cold virus
HKU1= another common cold/pneumonia

FACT NUMBER 2: - the spike proteins in the vaccines don’t make you sick the spike proteins in the virus do.

FACT NUMBER 3: when in doubt refer to fact number 1


42 posted on 08/25/2021 9:46:44 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum

In fact, I did not stress the graphene oxide itself.
I remain skeptical of the graphene oxide accusations.
Check my posting history.

FACT 1.
You just straw-manned again.
It’s not “OMG this is the first spike protein”.
It’s that this virus with this spike protein is bad.
Great Game India pointed out likely genetic engineering of the COOF virus spike protein, back when the infection hadn’t even left China.

FACT 2.
You’re wrong.
There’s that Canadian doctor who had jabbed over 900 people and noticed them presenting with headaches, reduced exercise tolerance, etc.
So he began doing before- and -after the jab blood tests for d-Dimer. Usually a marker for clotting (although other things like cancer can elevate it too).
62% of the patients he did the blood tests on, had elevated d-Dimer after the jabs.
Both the Salk Institute and a group in South Africa have done tests showing the spike protein can cause clotting and other issues even without live virus present.
The jab’s S1 can bind to the ACE2 receptor but the two added proline amino acids prevent it from achieving membrane fusion and entering the cell. (The mRNA from the jabs enters the cell when the lipid nanoparticle is absorbed into the cell not by binding to the ACE2 receptor.)
But it has been published in the literature, how the spike protein binding to the ACE2 receptor signals the cell to produce inflammatory cytokines.

FACT3.
You don’t know what the living hell you’re talking about.


43 posted on 08/25/2021 10:05:09 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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