LilFarmer: "I have noticed many posts of personal experiences with adverse reactions to the vaccine and thought it would be helpful to put them all in one place."

8/24/2021 | LilFarmer

[LilFarmer]

That is both sad and infuriating. It happened close to the time the shots were given right? Did the docs make any connection?

Prayers up for her. 🙏 My son has epilepsy.

[nicollo]

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[bgill]

Mother is home but she now has to have caregivers. It’s affected her mind and is not getting around very well physically.

[Sequoyah101]

Thank you for making the effort to do this.

I hope we can include some judges in this list. Especially two from the sixth court of appeals.

[saleman]

Looking through the reactions there seems to be a clear pattern of old people, 80 plus, having much the same reaction to the jab.

Weakness, loss of mobility, general malaise. Also stroke and clots.

My dad is 89 be 90 in April. Ok. So he’s old, right? After 1st shot he was sick for a week. 2nd shot didn’t affect him as badly shortly after but within a mo. he became listless, confused, short of breath and lost his mobility to the point that now he is in a wheelchair and has 24 hr nursing care at home. He was in relatively good shape before the jabs with only mild high blood pressure that was controlled by medication. He is not, and has never been overweight.

[Grampa Dave]

WHO’s chart of adverse to vaccines and drugs:

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[Grampa Dave]

My wife and I are in our early 80’s and have had both Pfizer shots. We are a self imposed holding pattern re our booster shots. This report put us into that holding pattern.

You Might Want to Wait to Get a Booster Shot By Rachel Gutman

There are no simple rules for timing on a third jab—but maybe don’t rush it.

Here’s a simple starting point: If you’re already eligible for a third shot because you’re immunocompromised, get it on the sooner side. The CDC recommends at least a 28-day wait after your second mRNA dose, while two experts told me that the best window is four to five months after. In many immunocompromised people, the first one or two shots might not have triggered a strong enough response in the body to provide lasting protection. For them, the booster shot isn’t meant to fill in the cracks of your shield against the virus; it’s meant to create that shield in the first place.

Things get squishier for vaccinated people with relatively healthy immune systems. They’ll already be flush with newly minted B and T cells, which lie in wait to produce antibodies and attack the coronavirus.

Ali Ellebedy, an immunologist at Washington University in St. Louis, told me that the longer those cells mature in the body, the more prepared they are to fight off the invader. Delivered too early, another dose of the vaccine could end up “restarting something that was already working,” he said. Ellebedy recommended delaying any booster shots by at least six months from your initial course of vaccination. Eight months is better; even a year would be fine.

At the same time, booster shots do increase the measurable level of antibodies in the blood, pretty much whenever they’re received. The clinical benefits of this spike for fully vaccinated people remain unclear, though some preliminary evidence suggests that an antibody surge could reduce your chances of getting sick, or of transmitting the Delta variant to other people—at least until your antibody levels wane once more.

Most people’s antibody levels peak a few weeks after their initial COVID-vaccine shots. If that holds true for boosters, too, then you might be tempted to time your next injection for three-ish weeks before you’d most want to be protected.

Maybe the virus surged in your county last December, and you’re afraid it’ll do the same this year—so you decide to get your booster around Veterans Day. Maybe you want to make sure you don’t infect Uncle Dave at Thanksgiving—so you make an appointment for Halloween.

The problem is, “a few weeks” is just an average. Müge Çevik, a virologist at the University of St. Andrews, told me that different people develop antibodies at wildly different rates. In general, young, healthy people’s immune systems work quickly and can start to approach their peak antibody levels in as little as seven days. Older people, or those with compromised immune systems, can take weeks longer. Given that we don’t know how long those spikes last, these differences could be crucial.

Also, predicting when you’ll be in the most danger requires predicting when transmission in your community will be at its highest, which is nearly impossible to do with any precision. “It is very likely we will see another surge” this winter, Saskia Popescu, an infectious-disease epidemiologist at George Mason University, told me, but identifying the specific week or month when cases will peak in a given place just isn’t feasible. (Even a winter surge isn’t a sure bet: “At the moment, we don’t really have a consistent seasonal pattern,” because all of our surges have been shaped by behaviors like masking and distancing, Çevik said.) Popescu also pointed out that the rise of at-home testing and the decline of mass-testing sites could make it harder to detect smaller upward ticks until a surge is fully upon us.

Still, the mere likelihood of a winter surge does make it reasonable to wait, at least a bit. Çevik worries that if a large number of people rush out to get their extra shots, their antibodies will have faded by the time they’re needed most, and a winter surge could see even more breakthrough infections. Çevik advised her own parents, whom she described as being “in clinically vulnerable groups,” to get their boosters at the end of September or in October. Young people with healthy immune systems could stand to wait until November or early December. (This advice comes with exceptions: If you’re, say, a nurse on a COVID ward in a county where cases are spiking, getting a booster now might be prudent.)

Ultimately, the dynamics of transmission in your area may be more important than the details of your personal vaccine schedule.

David Dowdy, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, would rather see boosters distributed sparingly and strategically to communities that show signs of an impending surge. While everyone else waits, vaccine makers could update their formulas to better protect against Delta and set up randomized controlled trials to gather better data on how their original doses and boosters are performing.

On an individual level, Dowdy told me, there’s probably minimal harm in eligible people getting third shots now. But vaccine makers might have a new shot in a few months, designed around circulating variants, or even an intranasal option that can stop infections sooner. Once the government announces that tens of millions of people should get a booster now, persuading them to do so again in a few months, when a better option is available, could be difficult.
Those who decide to get a booster now might find they’re ineligible for a fourth shot when that better option comes. Case rates might seem scary now, but this pandemic has proved time and again that things can certainly get worse. “I think it’s important to not just say, Should I get a booster or not?”

Dowdy said, “but rather, Would I prefer to have a booster now or save the opportunity for later?”

This article previously misstated that the CDC recommends that immunocompromised Americans get a booster shot at least 28 days after a first Johnson & Johnson dose. In fact, the CDC does not currently recommend any booster shots for people vaccinated with J & J.

The Atlantic’s COVID-19 coverage is supported by grants from the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. Rachel Gutman,a senior associate editor @ The Atlantic.

[so_real]

FRiends, when you learn of an adverse event, encourage the family to *immediately* report the adverse event to the drug company involved *including* the date, hospital, and name of the doctor administering the vaccination. Then wait 30 days and copy the *same* information to the FDA. If the drug company has not supplied the report and including it in their statistics within that 30 day period to the FDA, they have broken the law and you can participate in the class action law suit to tear them a new one. Without the date, hospital, and doctor named ... it's just anecdotal info and *will* be ignored. With that information, it is a crime.

[agere_contra]

Here is a link to an FR thread on 'They Say Its Rare' - which is a Twitter account that collates these tragic stories of vaccine injury and death from across the world.

[ransomnote]

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled LilFarmer: "I have noticed many posts of personal experiences with adverse reactions to the vaccine and thought it would be helpful to put them all in one place.", agere_contra wrote:

Here is a link to an FR thread on 'They Say Its Rare' - which is a Twitter account that collates these tragic stories of vaccine injury and death from across the world.

[PING]

Wow. Thank you for the link. 

In Steve Hirsch's article asking about more information re accounts of increased infant cardiac issues (vaxxed moms?), i saw this comment about the word 'rare'.

[Big Red Badger]

Extensive list of Deaths from Vax Shots.

[MountainDad]

Good God!

So many heart-breaking stories....

These clot-shots are nothing less than mass murder!

[saleman]

And, here’s another

Secretary at my office. Vacced and just boosted last week. Blood clot in brain Christmas eve. Stroke. 48 years old. Good health.

Sure it’s just a coincidence.

[Grampa Dave]

“Blood clot in brain Christmas eve. Stroke. 48 years old.”

Most if not all of our family members and friends 60 years and older, who have been vaccinated were/are on one of the newer blood thinners like Eliquis and a baby aspirin.

Many of the younger people were taking a baby aspirin a day when they got the shots.

So, we haven’t had clots post vaccinations.

If we can figure out this, why haven’t those, who recommend and give the vaccinations, factored this reality in for people of all ages getting vaccinations?

[Grampa Dave]

A few weeks after I got the jab (J&J), I developed severe tinnitus (ringing in the ears).

At that time I also developed conjunctivitis. I have dry eyes but that usually doesn’t effect me except in the winter when the humidity drops. Did some research and found that Israel was reporting eye inflammation after vaccinations (Pfizer)
- lizma2

Post Pfizer shots: I developed a worsening of a tinnitus developed while on active duty in the Navy. This time, I hear birds or bugs chirping and not hearing what my wife said if she is not in the same room. No one else hears the bugs and birds.

Dry eyes are a family DNA inheritance, however my dry eyes are worse post Pfizer shots. I should buy stock in the company making and selling Systane.

[lizma2]

We have oil glands right behind our lashes. As we get older they put out less oil so our tears evaporate faster.

Eating fish oil helps those glands produce more oil. I likes Carlson's.

Bad days I use Systane overnight therapy all day long.

Also like Systane gel formula, and Retaine MGD. (Has oil in it)

Hope this helps.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks. We have smoked salmon every morning for breakfast and salmon steaks or burgers at least once a week.

Then, I use Systane Ultra 3-4 times a day. On really bad days, I use/add Systane Complete.

I will have to retry the Systane Gel at night.

Our grandson is into his 3rd year of working for a really good HVAC company while doing engineering studies to become an engineer to deal with enabling us to enjoy our homes and work places. His dad basically told another HVAC company how to setup our home with 2 units about 5/6 years ago. Our utility bills are excellent when compared to comparable homes.

[TheConservativeParty]

I hope we see the criminals who have anything to do with these poison death shots (as Dr.Zelenko calls them.....search Bichute.com for his videos)... are tried for crimes against humanity and hung.

[TheConservativeParty]

Thank you for this place to share stories.
My sister has Epstein-Barr now, from taking the poison shots.
She disregarded my pleas and information about the danger of taking the shots, she trusted her awful doctor and has been in poor health for months now, after the shots. She is 51 and now is trying to improve her failing health....by seeing the same awful doctor! 🤬

[lizma2]

The neighbor I grew up in none of the parents had a college degree. They were HVAC, electricians, plumbers, etc.

Everytime something went wrong in someone's house the guys would get together to fix it and I was there. I was in heaven.

Thought I would do engineering but ended up an eye doc.

My next career I would like to be an electrician!! LOL!

Consider Sytane Overnight Therapy 4xs day. Best I've come across.