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LilFarmer: "I have noticed many posts of personal experiences with adverse reactions to the vaccine and thought it would be helpful to put them all in one place."
8/24/2021 | LilFarmer

Posted on 08/24/2021 7:34:54 PM PDT by ransomnote

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To: DugwayDuke

It’s pretty much correct. You have no practical legal recourse.
https://www.mctlaw.com/vaccine-injury/vaccinations/coronavirus-covid-19/

As far as I know Pfizer still isn’t covered by VICP.
https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/covered-vaccines/index.html


161 posted on 09/22/2021 7:30:06 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

dynoman wrote: “It’s pretty much correct.”

Why do you say that this is “pretty much correct” when neither of those links address these questions:

- is the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine fully approved for those over 16?
- are Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine and Comirnaty the same vaccine?
- are Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine and Comirnaty the same vaccine just with different names and perhaps packaging?

In fact, the first link you provided includes this statement: “The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) granted full approval to the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine for people aged 16 and older. The Moderna vaccine is expected to gain full FDA approval in the coming days. Unfortunately, FDA approval does NOT mean the COVID-19 vaccines are automatically added to the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP). “

Even your links admit full approval.


162 posted on 09/22/2021 7:45:00 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

What compensation program is the “fully approved” Pfizer vaccine under, CICP or VICP?

It’s been under CICP which pays nothing, I’ve seen no evidence it’s under VICP, have you?

That is the issue I was addressing.


163 posted on 09/22/2021 8:09:26 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

dynoman wrote: “What compensation program is the “fully approved” Pfizer vaccine under, CICP or VICP?”

What’s your point? A vaccine can be fully approved and still not covered under those programs. Your first link says as much.

The discussion has been whether Pfizer vaccine is fully approved, not whether it’s covered under those programs.


164 posted on 09/22/2021 9:20:18 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke; moonhawk

I was responding to what moonhawk said;

“Chemically, yes, legally, no. The difference being that if you are one of the unfortunate ones who react adversely to the experimental drug, you have no legal recourse if you get the one that is still operating under the EUA. And that is the only one available here in the US.”

His point stands. Fully approved should put it under VCIP, is it under VCIP?


165 posted on 09/22/2021 9:39:18 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: DugwayDuke

Have you always had a this strong of a trust towards the government?


166 posted on 09/22/2021 9:41:48 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

dynoman wrote: “His point stands. Fully approved should put it under VCIP, is it under VCIP?”

From the link you provided: “FDA APPROVAL OF COVID-19 VACCINES DOES NOT MEAN VICP APPROVAL Unfortunatley, FDA approval does NOT mean the COVID-19 vaccines are automatically added to the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP).”

You’re trying to make things up, that unless it’s a part of VICP, it isn’t ‘fully approved’ which clearly isn’t the case.

BTW, also from your link: “Right now the VICP does NOT cover COVID-19 vaccine reactions. We believe that’s going to change soon.”

What excuse will the anti-vaxxers come up when that happens?


167 posted on 09/22/2021 9:56:26 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: dynoman

dynoman wrote: “Have you always had a this strong of a trust towards the government?”

Have you always had this strong of a trust towards anonymous posters on the internet?


168 posted on 09/22/2021 9:58:01 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Who have I quoted that’s anonymous?


169 posted on 09/22/2021 11:25:04 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: DugwayDuke

Who have I quoted that’s anonymous?


170 posted on 09/22/2021 11:25:29 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: DugwayDuke

Let me know when that happens.


171 posted on 09/22/2021 11:28:19 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: struggle

> My coworker got it and a few months later his right arm has gone completely numb. No loss of strength or movement, just pins and needles.

Very similar for me, with a few more complications. Since about a month after the second shot, my right arm has very frequent pins and needles sensations, but very little loss of strength.

I’m 53 years old, and got fully vaccinated with Pfizer. No immediate issues other than soreness in the arm for a couple of days. About 2 months later, I was admitted to the hospital for five days with pneumonia, although I suspect it was triggered by clotting. At the hospital, they noticed that my liver enzyme (bilirubin) levels pretty high, and they asked if I was a heavy drinker (I’m not). It took about a month for my lungs to clear up fully.

I’d never been seriously ill before. I’m extremely opposed to getting the booster shot. My wife and I know a couple of old women who had a stroke and a heart attack a couple of days after getting the booster, and a couple of old men who had fatal heart attacks a few weeks after getting the second shot.

I tried to talk my 15 year old daughter out of getting the vaccine, but in the end she took it... not because she was afraid of covid-19, but because being unvaccinated was too restrictive to here personal freedoms. I pray that she doesn’t regret it in the future.


172 posted on 09/22/2021 11:28:21 AM PDT by Mr170IQ
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To: DugwayDuke

You are an anonymous person on the internet.


173 posted on 09/22/2021 11:54:43 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

dynoman wrote: “Who have I quoted that’s anonymous?”

Many posters in this forum are providing health advice but remain anonymous.


174 posted on 09/22/2021 1:02:01 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: dynoman

dynoman wrote: “You are an anonymous person on the internet.”

Have I advised you on your health care?


175 posted on 09/22/2021 1:02:51 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Mr170IQ

I don’t blame you for not wanting the booster after all that. Yikes. Sad about the older people you know who died from it. So far my FIL’s memory care has not pushed the shots. He has vascular dementia, and I am concerned any blood clots would lead to a stroke. The facility has about half vaxxed and half unvaxxed residents and staff.


176 posted on 09/22/2021 3:08:17 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: DugwayDuke

Since you didn’t answer I’ll repeat the question; Who have I quoted that’s anonymous?


177 posted on 09/22/2021 6:36:48 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: LilFarmer; datura; ransomnote

Adding a new post, from datura:

“I unfortunately need to relay some negative vax results to you from two of my mom’s friends.

They received their booster shots two days ago - both are 86 - and neither of them are ambulatory at this point. Full on Covid symptoms, body aches, pains, sever chills, unable to get out of bed.

I’m praying that they survive.”


178 posted on 09/30/2021 12:41:58 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer; ransomnote; drSteve78


Immunized, as it were, in Feb /March. First time Covid infection was a rough weekend in May after immunized cloth masked spouse traveled through four airports in three days and brought it home, sick sick Friday night, Saturday, Sunday, headache, horrible tearing eyes, neck pain, everything tasted like dirt. MONDAY MORNING, Forty five minutes after getting single ivermectin paste dose, tearing stopped, head cleared.
Second was a road trip, just two weeks ago, visited my brother for 8 hours of discussing the world over a bottle of Bushmills, then a marathon drive from GA to Colorado. He, one nephew, and one niece tested positive three days later after being sick. I got a milder case, but rapid worthless test was negative, saliva Covid test positive. By the time i got results , had already self quarantined, new to the state, and was much less sick. Except for persistent occipital pain.

Vaccine combo didn’t make much difference. Spouse says “you need boosters, you don’t get immunity”.. I SAID I’M VAXXED, SICK TWICE, AND DONE WITH IT.”

- drSteve78


179 posted on 10/01/2021 3:57:58 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer; ransomnote; God luvs America

“ My father in law is a very healthy 87YO. He’s an italian immigrant who came to America, legally, in the 50’s, with $20 in his pocket. He worked night and day, owned businesses, bought real estate and is now worth millions, though he and my mother in law live humbly. He’s also a staunch Conservative who loves President Trump and came here to be American, not to exploit America. The dude still works every day- and even goes to his nursey on Christmas Day out of habit. Except for bypass surgery about ten years ago he’s a healthy dude and is never sick. He took the vaccines in March (Pfizer i believe) and everything was fine. He woke up this morning with massive pain in his shoulder and back. He called the ambulance who took him to the hospital and did tests. He has water in his lungs- pneumonia basically. He had not been sick, slowed down nor did he have any symptoms leading up until today. The difference? He got his booster shot yesterday.”

- God luvs America


180 posted on 10/02/2021 8:09:46 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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