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To: Tennessee Conservative

Quinine was supposed to help fight the covid virus. I bought a ton of it for my folks a yr ago and they still mix it with juice, but at this point they are doing it just to get thru the inventory. They both got jabbed. I definitely see muscle weakness and mental decline in both, but mom already had dementia and dad is 88 with a ton of arthritis issues, so it’s anyone’s guess whether that’s partly due to the jabs. And of course, there’s always gin to help wash it down.....


1,668 posted on 08/18/2021 6:37:01 AM PDT by Ckcpossum
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To: Ckcpossum; Tennessee Conservative; All; alligator

I received the below from a friend of mine that has a degree in Toxicology. It is one of the best explanations that I have seen on the zinc connection to HCQ, and viruses. Also explains why drinking tonic water (quinine) is one part of prophylactic treatment. Very well written, and easily digested.

Zinc inhibits replication of virus RNA. Viruses hide in the interior structure various cell structures, in the case of the coronaviruses (not just Covid-19) that’s the lysosomes.

Hidden inside the lysosomes, the coronavirus replicates uninhibited as 1) zinc has a difficult time permeated the lysosome membrane 2) the body only has a limited amount of zinc on hand and it gets consumed quickly.

Supplementing w/ zinc is a well known and accepted way of fighting coronaviruses (like the common cold), hence the popularity of over the counter remedy’s like zicam and zinc lozenges. Supplementing overwhelms membrane hindrance and allows some zinc to penetrate the lysosome and inhibit replication. A zinc ionophore opens a transport path across interior cellular membranes allowing dramatic increases in zinc concentrations and inhibition of viral RNA. Anyone that says different is wrong - nothing to discuss. Accepted toxicology for 50+ years.

Quinine is about 1/2 as effective as hydroxychloroquine. Typical treatment dosages of hydroxycloroquine are 400mg/day. A typical bottle of tonic water has about 83 mg of quinine, about 10% of effective treatment dosage.

You would have to drink a lot of tonic water, probably incapable of keeping up in a full blown critical Covid-19 infection. As a preventative treatment for a virus that has to get a foothold in your immune system before successful infection takes place, absolutely! Some daily tonic water and a zinc supplement will reduce the likelihood of becoming infected (prophylactic).

Why all the reports of zinc ionophores not working? It’s politically motivated case bias - hydroxycloroquine (HCQ) was only given to the Covid-19 patients near death in the New York study and in the VA study. Problem w/ that is what happens when covid-19 overwhelms immune system - it causes the red blood cells (RBC) to purge their heme. This is problematic in two ways - the first is obvious, the lack of heme in RBC prevents cellular respiration (this is why advanced Covid-19 patients have the blackening of their extremities like frost bit victims). The second is due to the release of the heme itself - heme is a free radical and when released from the RBCs causes cellular damage in the lungs. This is what is causing the bilateral pneumonia observed in advanced Covid-19 patients. Once the damage is done eliminating the virus doesn’t heal the lungs. Lung tissue is well known to react w/ severe scarring/edema to injuries resulting in many patients passing away from lung damage weeks after being proclaimed “cured”. For a zinc ionophore to be effective, it must be given prior to the patient becoming critical. RE-READ that last sentence.


1,673 posted on 08/18/2021 6:41:54 AM PDT by alligator (To be ignorant of one's ignorance is the malady of the ignorant.)
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To: Ckcpossum; All

Thanks to everybody that has replied. I guess I’ll keep it. I do take Zinc/Quercetin and will sip on some of the tonic water daily. I couldn’t remember exactly why I had it but figured it had to do with COVID because it’s not something I ever used before. I still haven’t tried any.

I figure anything we do to prevent it is better than getting jabbed. My kids got jabbed too and it concerns me a lot. I haven’t seen any issues out of my son-in-law or granddaughter but my daughter has been sickly. She has always been sickly but it’s worse. She’s not handling job stress well and her IBS is worse. She has been having some bleeding. Jab? Who knows? Her mental state seems to be more fragile than normal even for her.

One sister, one brother, and one sister-in-law has had natural COVID but all got over it just fine.


1,686 posted on 08/18/2021 7:19:11 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative (My goal in life is to be the person my dog's think I am)
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