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Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 08/09/21 Vol.363, Q Day 1382
qalerts.net ^ | 8/9/2021 | FReeQs, FReepers, and vanity

Posted on 08/09/2021 7:43:50 AM PDT by ransomnote

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To: RitaOK

Well said.


901 posted on 08/11/2021 6:40:25 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: little jeremiah
I'll just leave this right here.


902 posted on 08/11/2021 6:40:50 AM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

903 posted on 08/11/2021 6:45:55 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

Meat candy...


904 posted on 08/11/2021 6:48:15 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Patriots, stop looking at the politicians as enemies. Look at the complicit Legacy Media.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
When it all falls out...where does Pence really fit in?

I consider all derps, each and every one of them, including the ignorant sheep know nothings who vote derp, to be enemies of America, the people, and the world.

Since Pence is a proven derp, he is of that cohort.

He is enemy.

These are the facts and they are not in dispute.


905 posted on 08/11/2021 6:49:39 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Oratam
Oooo, good one.

#SmartMeme


906 posted on 08/11/2021 6:50:52 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

Some, here, are long suffering...

Be not confused that we will sit idly-by when TSHTF.
Bad people will pay a bad price.


907 posted on 08/11/2021 6:52:22 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Patriots, stop looking at the politicians as enemies. Look at the complicit Legacy Media.)
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To: Melian

Tell it, Gen. Berger!


908 posted on 08/11/2021 6:52:30 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: dfwgator
Haha. I remember when headbands were cool. Like roller skates and leg warmers.

#Disco


909 posted on 08/11/2021 6:52:50 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster
When it all falls out...where does Pence really fit in?
I consider all derps, each and every one of them, including the ignorant sheep know nothings who vote derp, to be enemies of America, the people, and the world.

Since Pence is a proven derp, he is of that cohort.

He is enemy.

These are the facts and they are not in dispute.

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Couldn't agree with you more...we need to clean out D.C. and shut it down...with the technology we have today, there is no reason they need to hole up in D.C., spread em out and shut em up I say!!!

910 posted on 08/11/2021 6:55:07 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (President Trump will ALWAYS be MY President of the United States of America!!!)
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To: deks
RSBN just went live at the symposium...

Good.

Yesterday on the Lindell Live thread, one of the anti-patriots said that RSBN said they're 'out of here' like as if they left in disgust and wouldn't be back.


911 posted on 08/11/2021 6:55:33 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

:: Like roller skates and leg warmers. ::

ICYMI, they are called “leg gaiters” now.
Bwahhahahah.
:-)


912 posted on 08/11/2021 6:56:49 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Patriots, stop looking at the politicians as enemies. Look at the complicit Legacy Media.)
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To: bagster

Fehke and ghey


913 posted on 08/11/2021 6:59:26 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Patriots, stop looking at the politicians as enemies. Look at the complicit Legacy Media.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
ICYMI, they are called “leg gaiters” now.

Never heard that one.


914 posted on 08/11/2021 7:02:40 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Anyone know what time Ron is going to be on?

915 posted on 08/11/2021 7:03:13 AM PDT by TruthWillWin (Joe is not my POTUS)
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To: meyer; little jeremiah

Exactly.


916 posted on 08/11/2021 7:05:23 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: Keflavik76

Great point.


917 posted on 08/11/2021 7:05:54 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Loud and clear.


918 posted on 08/11/2021 7:06:37 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Nothing is more important than Truth)
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To: TruthWillWin
Post on Assange hearing:

https://t.me/TheOfficialE/585


Currently the Assange hearing is underway. There have been repeated issues with the feed cutting out. 

Clair Dobbin is presenting the argument for the US, which is attacking the opinion and validity of the medical professionals who diagnosed Julian with autism etc. They would rather the court rely on their own experts and own evidence which somehow finds Assange's suicidal ideation and general innocence barriers notwithstanding their interest in extradition.

It's a matter that has been settled by 2 other judges already.


With regard to the current prosecution argument underway, quoting Kennedy V. Cordia.
The case judgement actually states: “It is for the court to decide whether  
expert evidence is needed, when the admissibility of that evidence is challenged.” 
However**** The US is failing to illustrate that this information has been argued and settled twice before already.
They are framing it as though there is debate to this issue, by quoting their own experts (who are employed by the government).
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There are retreading settled ground here.
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The prosecution has just rested after that argument*

Defense is getting ready to quickly rebut*

Defense has just pointed out that the previous judge recognized the fact that the doctor in question (Kopleman) did not reveal Stella and Julian's children in his report, out of noted concern for their safety, but that the judge found his testimony reliable, dispassionate, and sound anyways.

Defense is going into the threats to the basic safety of Assange's family during the time in question, strong evidence of surveillance, plans by the Intelligence Community to steal their baby's nappy to determine paternity etc.
Judge Baraitser was aware of this and agreed with Dr. Kopleman's reasoning for not further identifying Stella and the children in his report about Julian's health.

The defense is explaining that the previous judge, who issued the extradition denial, had no qualm with the evidence presented by Dr. Kopleman, including evidence of Assange's suicidal ideation during his continued wrongful imprisonment. 
Discussed is an incident with a razor blade found in his cell. 
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If you are asking, why is the focus on Julian's mental health? 
Because this is the basis for the extradition denial, until cross appeal can happen at a later date by the defense. So the US Gov is attempting to push the UK court to allow challenges to both Julian's failing health, and the assertions that its prison system is too barbaric and could not effectively keep him alive. Today it is focusing on the testimony of medical professionals, attempting to convince the court (for a third time now) that is has grounds to dismiss those points of denial.
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Defense is explaining that the previous judge gave detailed reasoning as to why she found the Defense's expert testimony from Dr. Kopleman absolutely admissible, and understood the reasoning in attempting to protect the identity of Stella and the children.
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Judge inquires as to the nature of Dr Kopleman's second report failing to adequately explain the family situation,  calls it a double lapse; defense agrees but explains that the family situation had then become common knowledge by that time.

Defense explains that the prosecution cannot really argue against the previous judges ruling as to the substantial risk of suicide etc. Judge Baraitser gave detailed reasoning as to why she agreed with Dr. Kopleman's reasoning. Baraitser understood that Assange's impulses fluctuated according to circumstance and agreed that conditions in US prisons would be enough to trigger suicide given the ASD diagnosis.

Defense points out that the previous judge did not omit from her original decision, the government's opinions here, but that she found fault with them and agreed with the defense. That the judge had carefully considered the criteria the US Gov is attempting to challenge yet again.

Due to character limits this thread continues below.
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Second half of Assange Extradition Hearing thread: 

"Baraitser's judgement on the potential of suicide is unassailable." (quoting defense here) 
Defense calls the mental health diagnosies unarguable.

Defense accepts the deferred identification of Stella and the children by Dr. Kopleman, but again says the court cannot discount all of the evidence around Julian's mental health because of it.
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Prosecution interjects claiming they did not know about the children (although the illegal spying operations at the embassy will draw that claim into sharp question)
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Judge seems impatient and pushes to set date for full appeal saying it "needs to be heard soon" suggests a couple different periods in October and questions prosecutions availability.

Prosecution says it is unsure of lead availability in suggested dates.

Prosecution says the matter must be sent before the secretary of state, because of potential jurisdictional issues around section 103 (UK SoS, and Extradition Treaty) 
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US gov is attempting to submit a recent (and misguided) article as evidence against Dr Kopleman. Defense objects in saying that if this is the case then the court needs to summon the author and not blindly accept it.
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Timing for the full appeal is still being discussed. A member of the defense is apparently currently ill with covid.
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Defense moves to submit evidence of multiple incidents of US false assurances offered to courts.

Judges say they will consider this and will have a decision by 2pm
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Court breaks for an hour.
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Court will resume momentarily where a decision will be issued.
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Court is back in.

Judge begins reading decision..


Judge: We have heard objections to being refused on grounds 3 & 4.
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Full appeal will be heard October 27&28.
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Judges have refused to issue a ruling today on the grounds the US is seeking, claiming it is an issue of the Constitution of the Court (clarifying what this means now*)
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Judge summarizing the case so far. Quotes previous judge Baraitser on Dr. Kopelman not providing Stella’s identity in his initial report “An understandable human response to her predicament”.
Then Judge quotes prosecution claim that this concern for her safety proves he was not impartial as an expert.
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Judge is still summarizing.
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The Courts have granted the US the right to challenge the two grounds of appeal related to Dr. Koplemans expert testimony and risk of suicide that were previously rejected. 

Both of these grounds had been previously settled.
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This expands the ability of the US Gov to challenge the extradition denial, including now the expert testimony of doctors on Assange's mental health.
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This was, unfortunately, the expected result of the case today, which paves the now urgently sped up process for extradition the US is pushing.
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Legally, the US Gov still has nothing. The only charges left standing after the exposure of Siggy the Hacker, the star informant for the superceding indictment, as a fraud, are the publishing of classified information charged under the espionage act. No hacking charges will remain.
This is not reflected yet in the UK Courts, and will be a matter that will come into play at the full hearing in October.

919 posted on 08/11/2021 7:07:02 AM PDT by TruthWillWin (Joe is not my POTUS)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Yet my very existence is “hyper-activism” to the enemy.


920 posted on 08/11/2021 7:07:36 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Nothing is more important than Truth)
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